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Rose lovers: any suggestions?

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OurLadyOfPerpetualSupper Sun 18-Oct-09 11:37:31

My FIL has kindly offered to plant some roses as a Christmas present, to cover a wall about 10ft long and 4 - 6ft high.
He's given me a catalogue to choose from, but I wondered if anyone knows of one that's particularly gorgeous, disease-resistant and reliable to help me cut down on the bewildering choice.

The wall faces NE I think, and is on a slope.
I think we need climbers or ramblers but can't remember which one is the best.

Pannacotta Sun 18-Oct-09 13:28:03

On such a low wall you need to go for a climber or a tall shrub rose not a rambler, ramblers are better scrambling through trees and would get far too big.
You can search on the Peter Beales website accodring to type and colour.
Rosa glauca is a good, shade tolerant rose, not a climber but will climb/grow upwards if next to a wall. Nice foliage, pretty flowers and good red hips in autumn,

Pannacotta Sun 18-Oct-09 13:31:13

Or look at the Hybrid Musks, good, long flowering roses which are disease resistant, usually scented and shade tolerant

OurLadyOfPerpetualSupper Sun 18-Oct-09 13:36:42

Oh yes hips, I'd forgotten about those - I do like a showy hip.

Thanks for those links.

ib Sun 18-Oct-09 13:42:51

Rosa New Dawn is absolutely wonderful - I've thoroughly neglected it and it has never had any disease or anything at all. It's not too huge either, so would be great on a small wall like yours.

OurLadyOfPerpetualSupper Sun 18-Oct-09 13:50:08

I've heard of New Dawn actually - will look at that.

I'm assuming I'll have to plant several so as to cover the wall more quickly and end up with a better display, so I'll have to decide whether to go for one stunner or a mixture.

Pannacotta Sun 18-Oct-09 14:51:38

New Dawn is lovely but can get quite big eventually, up to 3m tall according to P Beales site.

Why not have a mix of climbers? Clematis look great grown with climbing roses, I have a Clematis alpina growing through one of mine and the pretty foilage hides the ugly bare stems of the rose and the clematis has lovely fluffy seedheads too.

purplepeony Sun 18-Oct-09 15:00:00

New Dawn is nice but I suggest you look at David Austins's roses website.

They are also very helpful if you want to talk to them.

I love Albertine but it's mre of rambler- however, you can cut it back fiercely- mine is trailing over a pergola.

You need to think about whether you want one to flower all summer, or just one short intense flush of flowers.

Also, think colour shcemes- that's the start- pink, apricot, white, red..what else is going tobe growing near it?

also- do you want fragrance if people will walk or sit nearby?

AvengingGerbil Sun 18-Oct-09 15:20:49

Try David Austin's A Shropshire Lad (climbing version). I have it and it is gorgeous.

OurLadyOfPerpetualSupper Sun 18-Oct-09 15:50:52

You lot are good. Will def look at David Austin as well.
And I do like the idea of a clematis but would probably add in at a later date.
In answer to your question - nothing but grass is growing near it. We cleared and grassed over a wide messy border and the wall is down one side of it.

ib Mon 19-Oct-09 11:46:21

What colours do you like?

I have found the David Austin catalogue a bit misleading, as I don't get a real sense of the size of flowers from it - some of the DA roses I've had have had flowers that are slightly too big and droopy and I was fairly disappointed, even though they looked lovely in the catalogue.

IME roses with smaller flowers are actually more effective in a garden setting.

Pannacotta Mon 19-Oct-09 16:51:37

I agree with ib, some of the D Austin roses are very blousy.
I find the Peter Beales catalogue and website excellent, also if you email/call them they will give specific recommendations.

OurLadyOfPerpetualSupper Mon 19-Oct-09 21:59:05

Colourwise, I'm quite fond of pinks and reds - but, again, don't know whether to make a 'show' of one colour or go for a mixture.

ib Mon 19-Oct-09 22:45:58

Oh, OK. I was asking because if you liked yellow roses (but I know not to everyone's taste) I have a couple of very good ones.

Not a huge fan of pink (apart from very pale ones like New Dawn or Buff Beauty) and my reds have all been a disaster so can't help too much on that.

OurLadyOfPerpetualSupper Mon 19-Oct-09 23:35:54

Well, actually, the reason I say pink/red is because they are colours I wear a lot of - although I suppose this doesn't necessarily translate in gardening terms blush.

I'd be interested to hear your yellow suggestions - in fact, as the wall faces NE and loses sun about 4pm at the height of summer, yellow would probably be a bright and cheerful choice.

Pannacotta Tue 20-Oct-09 13:27:28

A lovely rose for shade is Mme Alfred Carriere, a slighly blush white which is scented and flowers for a long time.

ib Tue 20-Oct-09 20:14:23

One that has done really well for me is Maigold - it's been really tough. Another is Golden Celebration, but I'm not too sure how well that would do in shade.

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