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Cheese cake - but what sort of cheese, please???

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Pan Sun 02-Aug-09 19:15:45

I read recipies that talk of cream cheese, but surely this does not mean Phili, and that sort of thing? I have also been advised it's Fromage frais, but I have my doubts..

I asked as I have engaged myself in a 'cook-off' with a friend, and her weapon of choice is for us to make cheese cake and submit them for independent scrutineering....which is fine...'cept I have nooo idea re cheese cake!!

what cheese???


IotasCat Sun 02-Aug-09 19:19:09

Philli is your friend

Lizzylou Sun 02-Aug-09 19:19:10

I make an easy one with marscapone and condensed milk.
But yes, Philly is used too, try it, gwan grin

IotasCat Sun 02-Aug-09 19:19:51

Just don't use the one with garlic and herbs

Pan Sun 02-Aug-09 19:22:34

thanks very much! MN - the finest search engine in the universe.grin

Plain Phili it is then.

thank you.

bellavita Sun 02-Aug-09 19:22:40

Depends on what recipe....I have one that I use regularly and it needs double cream, greek yoghurt and full-fat soft cheese.

LynetteScavo Sun 02-Aug-09 19:23:59

I've used ricotta (Joe Dolce's Italian Cheesecake)

Otherwise Phili (or similar)

Pan Sun 02-Aug-09 19:24:34

that sounds more like it than plain Phili, bella.

Can I crave your indulgence and ask for proportions please? This could be the winner.

IotasCat Sun 02-Aug-09 19:25:02

I have an ancient very simple recipe that uses double cream and sieved cottage cheese

Jaquelinehyde Sun 02-Aug-09 19:26:42

Plain phili + condenssed milk + the juice of two lemons and their grated zest makes the most wonderful cheesecake topping ever!!

Stick it on to a normal digestive biscuit and butter base and Bobs your Uncle - friendly competition won!

MayorNaze Sun 02-Aug-09 19:29:13

whipped double cream and philli. combine the 2. gordon ramsey does a mandarin cheesecake this way IIRC

Dumbledoresgirl Sun 02-Aug-09 19:30:37

Now you see I totally disagree with you all here. Philli is nothing like cream cheese used to be. The nearest substitute in my opinion would be marscapone, but even that is not right.

I don't make cheesecake proper any more because I can't fin cream cheese proper sad

Pan Sun 02-Aug-09 19:31:53

Am overwhelmed with this advice!

but I need numbers, amounts etc. Priddy please??

anonandlikeit Sun 02-Aug-09 19:31:57


bellavita Sun 02-Aug-09 19:32:15

Pan - tis called American Cheesecake and ingredients are...


6oz digestives crushed
3oz melted butter
1 1/2 demerara sugar


8oz (225g) full-fat soft cheese
1oz caster sugar
5floz (150ml) double cream
5floz (150ml) greek yoghurt
juice of 1 1/2 lemons


Soft fruits - berries of your choice - scattered..

Mix together the ingredients for the base and press into the tin 8" round loose-bottomed one.

Measure the cheese and sugar into a large bowl and mix well to blend. Add the cream and the yoghurt and mix again. Gradually add the lemon juice whisking all the time. Turn the mixture into the tin and leave in the fridge to set overnight.

Arrange your fruit on top before servingl

bellavita Sun 02-Aug-09 19:33:22

You can get 6 largish slices out of 8 or 8 normal ones.

MayorNaze Sun 02-Aug-09 19:33:49

so is philli not cream cheese? shock

does it not say cream sheese on the label somehwere???

bellavita Sun 02-Aug-09 19:34:21

blush typing faster than my fingers.. 6 large 8 normal

porcupine11 Sun 02-Aug-09 19:35:14

I had this problem and the solution lies in Waitrose - the only shop in the entire country that stocks proper CREAM CHEESE. It's an organic brand, usually tucked high up on the top shelf of the cheese aisle with a blue cardboard surround. Pricey though, my cheesecake this weekend needed 6 tubs at £1.89 a go.

This is the only way to make a real cheese cake or cream cheese frosting. Sorry, but using Philadelphia sounds gross and much too savoury.

Go forth and buy so that they keep stocking it, and I can keep using it!

bellavita Sun 02-Aug-09 19:36:04

Mayor - philli is cream cheese smile but I would normally use supermarkets own brand.

porcupine11 Sun 02-Aug-09 19:36:33

Would you like a killer recipe? I've got one for straight baked cheese cake and a more fiddly one that uses a bain marie...

porcupine11 Sun 02-Aug-09 19:38:21

Philli is not cream cheese of the kind in recipe books, it's made for spreading as a savory snack so the taste and texture are all wrong

Pan Sun 02-Aug-09 19:38:53

yes mayornaze - love the name - it does but it just seemed wrong. The lemon will no doubt give it the kick I am used to from c/cake!

I do appreciate posters notes and advice.

Pan Sun 02-Aug-09 19:40:21

porcupine - please kill me then??

MayorNaze Sun 02-Aug-09 19:46:30

o gosh shock

and there was me thinking i had epicurial tendencies! i thought supermarket own brand was just unbrnded philli? dear dear i have a lot to learn. this is what happens when you odn't have a local waitrose and ocado don't deliver to your area...
<<wink at pan - cheers!>>

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