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Buttercream or ganache?

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pamplemousse Tue 16-Sep-08 17:44:11

I need to know which is better to cover and sandwich a cake with please...
Am thinking ganache is richer due to being chocolate and cream (is that all?!) and maybe yummier? Only thinking this as buttercream would be made of cocoa powder and butter etc?
Any ideas please....

norksinmywaistband Tue 16-Sep-08 17:56:50

Buttercream for sandwiching, and ganache to cover

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:00:14

buttercream is boaktastic tbh, sorry.

Ganache wins every time, but there are so many other alternatives for filling and covering cakes, not just buttercream or ganache.

Whipped cream with flavourings/fruit/chocolate makes a good filling

Meringue oand other cooked toppings are also really yummy and easy.

SuperBunny Tue 16-Sep-08 18:04:25

Depends on the kind of cake. I use:

Ganache
Melted chocolate
Whipped cream (with or without sugar or melted chocolate in it)
Creamcheese
Glace icing
Buttercream

pamplemousse Tue 16-Sep-08 18:06:06

Cunning plan norks - loving your name!!
OMDB, I realise there are other options, I have the cake ready and waiting, I have cream, chocolate, butter and all things bad for you on standby waiting for me to make my mind up between the two... Whats boaktastic?! Horrible I am guessing...?

Lizzylou Tue 16-Sep-08 18:07:19

I luuurrrve buttercream...
I second Norks, buttercream filling and ganache topping
I so wish I wasn't on a diet!

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:10:56

Oh I see! In that case, ganache for the filling and melted chocolate for the topping?

Or, buttercream filling and ganache topping.

I just find buttercream always tastes like sweet butter, not something I enjoy eating!

Another time, if you can, try a meringue type topping, it is very very luch and easy and everyone will be impressed grin

pamplemousse Tue 16-Sep-08 18:16:43

Thanks people will go with buttercream filling and ganache coating.
Oooh tell me how to make merigue toppping I might have the ingredients... Would it go on a chocolate cake though?! If not whats it best on?
Thaaaanks

SmugColditz Tue 16-Sep-08 18:18:57

considering buttercream was an invention of the second world war when cream wasn't available, I cannot believe you need to ask.
Buttercream = revolting

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:25:15

yes it would go on chocolate cake!

All you need is egg whites, a pinch of salt and sugar.

(I agree with colditz too, buttercream, to me, belongs in the same category as prawn cocktail wink)

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:29:18

white icing:

2 cups sugar
1 cup water

heat these, stirring, until disolved. Then boil, without stirring, until the syrup reaches the thread stage.

Meanwhile, whip up:

2 egg whites
a pinch salt

until stiff.

Add the syrup in a thin stream to the egg whites, whisking continuously while doing so.

When it is all mixed together add a pinch of cream of tartar or a few drops of lemon juice.

Cover your cake!

It has the consistancy of marshmallow (not rubbery marshmallows though), or gooey meringue.

<drool>

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:31:02

If you cover a cake with the white icing and then a layer of melted chocolate that then goes hard on the top is is absolutely divine.

You can also flavour that basic recipe with things like peppermint, or add chopped nuts once it is done, or shredded coconut.

pamplemousse Tue 16-Sep-08 18:38:34

God that sounds amazing!
Buttercream to me is the yummy stuff that one piles onto a cupcake to make it very pretty and tasty, I had no idea it was so hated in general!
I was going to cheer my friend up with some cupcakes with a bit of chocolate buttercream on , but am reconsidering now!

pamplemousse Tue 16-Sep-08 18:43:24

Hmm don't have cream of tartar, I wonder if the co op do it...

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:43:39

You wait, once you've tried the meringue icing you'll realise how very boring buttercream icing really is!grin

I also have recipes for caramel icing and filling, lucious orange icing, butterscotch icing, french coffee icing and apricot icing to name but a few...

MrsMattie Tue 16-Sep-08 18:44:57

Both with extra double cream and chocolate sauce and other sweet stuff all over the top...<gluttonous emoticon>

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:46:10

I also have an easier version of that white icing, called 7-minute icing, because it only take 7 minutes!

SuperBunny Tue 16-Sep-08 18:48:34

OMDB, is it spreadable? Can you pipe it?

pamplemousse Tue 16-Sep-08 18:50:34

Oooh will ask for you the next cake I make then
Does 7 minute icing have cream of tartar? Am v tempted as you can probably tell! Is the 7 minute one as yummy? I don't mind spending a bit longer for a yummier result...
Though I do need to make a dahl, a curry, onion hajis and some other stuff tonight so maybe time saving is a good idea!

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:53:58

Yes it is spreadable and you can also pipe it, though it is pretty sticky stuff until it has hardened a bit so I wouldn't bother piping it as it would be very messy.

Yes,the 7 minute icing has cream of tartar in it too. I'm tempted to say just leave it out, but wouldn't want to be responsible it if didn't work out as a result grin

MadamAnt Tue 16-Sep-08 18:58:20

OMG I really shouldn't have opened this thread. My restraint wrt baking is based entirely on the fact that I find buttercream too sickly. I had no idea that there were such luscious alternatives. Oh dear.

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 18:59:29

wow, you having a party then?

The 7 minute one is fluffier, still delicious.

Basically you need to place all the following ingreidewnts into a double boiler or big bowl set over a pan of boiling water and beat them until thoroughly blended:

2 egg whites
1 and 1/2 cups sugar
5 tbsp cold water
1/4 tspn cream of tartar
1 and 1/2 tspn golden syrup (optional, it doesn't matter if you leave it out)

Then beat them over the boiling water for 7 minutes and add a tspn vanilla essence if you want.

SOmetimes it needs a little more beating until it is the right consistancy to spread.

pamplemousse Tue 16-Sep-08 19:54:56

Thank you so much for your help OMDB!
Will go to shop just in case for c.o.t
Yes its my stepmothers birthday tomorrow and we are making a feast, but she doesn't know so I am having to make a load of curries etc and transport them over to theirs tomorrow afternoon. Also have birthday cake responsibilities

Overmydeadbody Tue 16-Sep-08 23:06:41

My pleasure! smile

I expect a full report back on what topping you chose in the end and how it worked out! Good luck, it all sounds amazing.

MadamAnt Wed 17-Sep-08 20:52:42

OMDB - please would you post ALL of your icing/topping recipes

pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

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