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Ham in Cherry Coke a la Nigella....will diet coke work?

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MyLittleOwls Fri 24-Dec-10 14:57:56

Just a quickie, I haven't got any Cherry Coke do you think I could substitute diet coke and it still be edible or is it all to do with the sugar in the cherry coke?

tingletangle Fri 24-Dec-10 15:01:46

She says in her book not to use diet. I know someone who did and apparantly it was not nice.

Justalittlereindeer Fri 24-Dec-10 15:02:06

I think you need the full fat variety. I had a similar prob yesterday...realised I only had diet in. I read something about the aspartame in diet coke going a bit funny when it's heated, so I vetoed it and boiled it in cider instead. Still yummy!

alarkaspree Fri 24-Dec-10 15:03:02

No absolutely not. You need sugar and you can't heat aspartame.

MyLittleOwls Fri 24-Dec-10 15:09:14

Thanks all, will do a honey and cider type thingie instead smile

BeenBeta Fri 24-Dec-10 15:31:08

Diet will surely be horrid?

Aspartame (Nutrasweet) is a dervative of Phenylalanine and Aspartic acid which are amino acids.

Sugar is necessary for it to caramelise.

rainbowstardrops Fri 24-Dec-10 15:32:45

I cooked bacon in coke (diet) once, in the slow cooker and it was delicious!!!!

panettoinydog Fri 24-Dec-10 15:36:15

Nooooo!

Himalaya Fri 24-Dec-10 15:43:14

You need the sugar for the Mailard reaction. The sugar reacts with the protein in the meat for the roasty meat crust. Some caramelisation too. Use honey instead.

MyLittleOwls Fri 24-Dec-10 16:20:25

Ok so just boiled it in cold water to remove salt......next step is what please?

was going to encase in foil and glaze in honey and brown sugar but when to add them?

cakes are soooo much easier confused

MyLittleOwls Fri 24-Dec-10 16:34:56

Holy Crap......in a fit of sheer madness I removed the fatty skin [shocked]

It is now secured with a rather large skewer and I muttered some bollocks wise cooking words to DH about letting air circulate to make the meat even more tasty, as if grin

What shall I do?

tomhardyismydh Fri 24-Dec-10 16:37:46

is it cooked through from boiling? if not I would place it in a high oven for about an hour and glaze it every 20mins or so. do nt cook it in the foil as it wont glaze.

said Fri 24-Dec-10 16:43:14

Any full fat fizzy drink will work - ginger ale is great

MyLittleOwls Fri 24-Dec-10 16:43:29

Many Thanks tomhardy it is just possible you have saved my bacon....

<<runs off hysterically to laugh at own joke and put oven on>>

catinthehat2 Fri 24-Dec-10 16:46:47

you boil or slowcook until it is basically cooked through using water , coke etc

then take off the skin, leave even layer of decorative fat

score the fatty layer with slanted parallel lines one way, then the other so you end up with diamonds.

poke a clove into each diamond (yes, you need to score more than 2 millimeters apart)

spread some sugary tasty gloop on the outside - marmalade, brown sugar, honey, mustard etc .

shove in oven until the fatty/sugary layer is crisp

the end

Himalaya Fri 24-Dec-10 16:49:13

Meat, fat, sugar, heat...you can't really go wrong. Go easy on the cloves though.

MyLittleOwls Fri 24-Dec-10 16:51:13

catinthehat and said.....I think I love you grin

will report back

Oblomov Fri 24-Dec-10 16:51:51

Little owls, don't panic. You are supposed to remove some of the fat, atleast most people do.
I soak mine all day, boil for an hour, then cut off most of the fat. then into the oven, cover in foil for 3/4 of the time, then uncover, pour marinade over and then cook for the last 1/4. Always works for me.

catinthehat2 Fri 24-Dec-10 17:48:39

It should look like this at the end if you haven't overdone the cloves.

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