Mama Mia, Here We Go Again - with spoilers!

[Loopytiles]

Liked it! Good tunes, story stood up, and sad/moving at times.

Loved the setting.

[InfiniteVariety]

The story stood up??

[Oopsy41]

It's ok, not a patch on the first one. Really didn't see the point of chers character, don't think she added anything to the film at all

[Loopytiles]

Well, story was just the backstory of the original, and the DD trying to realise her deceased mother’s dream made sense, to me at least!

Agree about cher, but quite enjoyed her bits!

[Flaminghaggis]

Its terrible. Just awful.

[Mhw02]

Is the Greek guy who manages the hotel meant to be Donna's father?

[Ginger1982]

So is Donna dead then? If so, how?

[InfiniteVariety]

I imagine Donna is dead because Meryl Streep only wanted to be minimally involved....

[Oopsy41]

It doesn't explain how she died. It didn't occur to me that it was Donna's dad

[Mhw02]

Oopsy it was just that he said something about 1959, which would place their affair round about the time Donna was born, so I wondered if that was who he was.

[pinknight]

I really like it. It was a nice summer film and took me back to seeing the first one 10 years ago.

There are a few unanswered questions though...

1. Didn't Donna say her mum was dead in the first one?
   
2. In the first one, it says Harry came to the island last. In this movie, she meets him first and he doesn't even go to the island.
   
3. The dates are waaaaay off. Donna goes to the island in 1979 as a 22 year old, but Sophie is 25 now? Is it set in 2005? No way is Meryl Streep's character only 47. All the actors look much older than the age they are supposed to be, except Cher who is only 3 years older than Streep....my head hurts
   
4. Where was Bill's great aunt, Sophia? It wasn't the woman who gave Donna the farm house was it?
   
5. Did Sophie and Sky ever get married?
   
6. How did Donna die?
   
7. Cher met Fernando in 1959? Another date that makes no sense
   
8. Why do Donna's friends have the same haircuts decades later?
   
9. WHO is Sophie's dad?!

[pinknight]

I don't think Fernando is Donna's dad. Donna was graduating in 1979 so must be around 22, which means she was born in 1957ish

[Mhw02]

pinknight I completely agree with number 8! Particularly Rosie, as it was a REALLY unflattering hairstyle. Though I have to say young Tanya was an amazing piece of casting (or amazing hair and makeup!) - she looked completely identical to Christine Baranski.

[ineedaholidaynow]

Just been to see it. Might have cried a lot

Now have another Abba song that leaves me in a sobbing heap. Thought Slipping Through my Fingers was bad, but My Life, My Love broke me! Although in my defence I have recently lost a parent, so cry at most things.

Through my tears I did enjoy it, but wasn't as good as the first. Thought all the actors playing the younger versions were very good, and as PP have said the young Tanya was the spitting image of the older Tanya.

Quite a few Abba songs I didn't know.

I bet they had a blast making the film

[WeaselsRising]

I was expecting great things but was a bit disappointed. Agree with all of pinknights questions. The other thing that jarred was the Graduation in 1979 and young Donna wearing boots from around 1974. Nobody was wearing those platform boots by the end of the 70s.

Most of the songs weren't new. They were off ABBA's early albums, particularly Arrival. I remembered most of the words to most of them

[JaneJeffer]

The first one was so bad I can only imagine this one is worse.

[Toohotme]

I love Abba’s music but the first film was so awful I would not put myself through a sequel.

[yawning801]

I quite liked it actually! It was very different from the original, it didn't have as much energy. There were a few funny bits and it was really only Meryl's scene that made the cinema go "aah", which is good as I hate crying at films! But I agree with all the above questions, and I have one of my own. Young Rosie asks which man Donna's missing, but in the original Donna reveals that there were two other guys at the same time as Sam. Hate plot holes!

[Headfullofdreams]

I loved it and blubbed for half of it!
Young Donna was brilliant. The only part I didn't like was Cher. Don't think they needed it to be Cher. She didn't add anything.
Was shocked Donna had died!

[coldday]

I read they (apparently) killed Donna because Streep would have been too expensive to have her in more than a couple of scenes. I personally think it would have been better to do the whole film as a prequel with just the first 5 and last 5 minutes in the present day. The current day stuff didn't really add much.

I'm disappointed they killed Donna. Mamma Mia is supposed to be the ultimate escapism/happy film, and killing her off has ruined that. There was just no need.

[sakura06]

I cried a lot! I didn't realise they'd killed Donna off and was really upset (touched a nerve as MIL died 2 years ago).

I enjoyed it overall though! I also thought Fernando was meant to be Donna's dad.

[SouthWestmom]

Just seen it.

So....

It was a very different feel, hated the maudlin Streep in the chapel scene.

Loved the young Tanya.

Hated Cher.

Gave up on dates.

Got bored in places.

Won't watch it again.

[Mrscaindingle]

How funny I seem to have very different views to pp..

I was not overly keen on the first one but really liked this one, maybe my expectations were lower this time around. I sobbed at the christening scene and agree that Cher didn't add much...but she was Cher ...and so it was good.

[thisonehasalittlecar]

So glad to have found all the other cry-babies! I wept from start to finish... I'm not even into this kind of film but I'm going through personal shit at the moment so I think it filled a public service role in letting me get that out. When Pierce Brosnan and Amanda Seyfried were clutching each other during the storm... floodgates.

Memo to Andy Garcia: pull yourself together man! Do some pilates, get a decent haircut, you could still be hot in a George Clooney, silver fox-type way!

[MozzieMagnet]

I saw this last night and bloody loved it!
I actually preferred it to the original.
The scriptwriter/director did a brilliant job with tying past and present.
I also liked the Easter egg at the end (The passport man Omid Djalili singing take a chance on me):
Bottom line - youngest DD wanted to go and subjected me to the first one again on Thursday...saw the trailer to the second one and had minimal expectations.
But it was fab. Really surprised. Lily James (Cinderella, baby driver) can sing, I hope she gets nominated for a golden globe in the musical category. The atmosphere in the cinema was just lovely.
My only gripe was them not fitting in Head Over Heels somewhere as I love that one. Given that Donna was late for graduation they could have used it then dammit, even as background instrumental. Also Eagle could have been used for the travelling dreams (even though she only went to two places!)

Anyhoo....

Didn't Donna say her mum was dead in the first one? yes
screencrush.com/mamma-mia-cher-mom-dead/

but in all honesty, and bearing in mind I saw the first one again the day before the sequel, the scene is blink and you'll miss it. I certainly didn't remember it.

1. In the first one, it says Harry came to the island last. In this movie, she meets him first and he doesn't even go to the island.
   

Big plot hole
www.digitalspy.com/movies/mamma-mia/news/a862007/mamma-mia-2-here-we-go-again-harry-guitar-plot-hole/

1. The dates are waaaaay off. Donna goes to the island in 1979 as a 22 year old, but Sophie is 25 now? Is it set in 2005? No way is Meryl Streep's character only 47. All the actors look much older than the age they are supposed to be, except Cher who is only 3 years older than Streep....my head hurts
   

you are not alone
www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/07/mamma-mia-here-we-go-again-timeline-what-year-is-it

1. Where was Bill's great aunt, Sophia? It wasn't the woman who gave Donna the farm house was it?
   

I think so. Sofia warned off Sam that Donna was with her great-nephew who was a 'stud'. She helped Donna give birth (hot water, towels etc) which presumably was why she named her daughter after her. She also thought Donna was lovely because she was nice to Sofia's horse.

1. Did Sophie and Sky ever get married?
   

not told but I thought not.
www.bustle.com/p/14-questions-mamma-mia-2-leaves-unanswered-but-its-ok-because-cher-9806589
Bustle mention a ring on right hand. They also worry about the Sofia character

1. How did Donna die?
   

not told
but she got to shag Pierce Brosnan so she died happy.

1. Cher met Fernando in 1959? Another date that makes no sense
   

Tis all a bit timey wimey yep That throws off Fernando being her Dad by a couple of years. Meh.

1. Why do Donna's friends have the same haircuts decades later?
   

they are channelling Anna Wintour And sparing me having to explain who the characters are every six seconds to DD
(even then she got confused as she thought Tanya and Rosie were Sophie's aunties)

1. WHO is Sophie's dad?!
   

not told Hence all the grandfather ears/eyes/feet banter at the end.

Don't know - a virgin Harry might have had some pent up swimmers but frequent masturbation depletes sperm stores
A frequent shagger/ejaculator like Bill, as well as drinking, could have a lower sperm count
And Donna slept more times(?) with Sam so my money is on him but he might have been more condom-conscious if engaged, the cad

Who had the loosest boxers?!

I am of course biased towards Pierce though Remington Steele
The young Sam was my least favourite casting, although in fairness he picked up Pierce's brogue a couple of times
Hugh Skinner (Harry) has a Matt Smith thing going explains the timey-wimey. Maybe Peter Capaldi nicked the guitar.

The young Bill was...swoon

But young Sam should have been played by Danny Mac [gavel]
and older Harry should have had a happy end in all senses with his bf from the first movie (my kid wanted to know why he wasn't gay any more, bless her).

[MozzieMagnet]

screencrush.com/mamma-mia-2-makes-no-sense/

Pink night you are totally not alone!