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Misogyny in the Labour Party. Mass protest letter?

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Superlandlady Fri 01-Dec-17 09:25:57

In my long life I never had any problem with male to female trans. However, the events of the past year have baited and goaded and provoked me, until I reached Peak Trans a few weeks ago.

Labour has quietly changed the definition of "woman", without consulting women, the sex that is going to lose out.

On Sunday I wrote to the LP officials in charge of Rochester area expressing my concern about them/Labour allowing a boy to be women's officer and apply for the Jo Cox award.

The response, from Teresa Murray, a woman who is a vice-chair and a deputy leader within the local area, is that it's absolutely fine. She is perfectly happy for all these protected posts to go to any man, even a teenage boy, who self declares that he "feels like a woman" (the meaning of which is not allowed to be debated).

This means the rule that 50% of officers in every CLP having to be female, and anything else specifically set up to advance women in politics is now totally meaningless.

Women are losing all this, to appease about 1% of men.

Turns out that, for the Labour Party, the only women who matter are transwomen. Women-born-women are thrown under a bus.

There is a part of me that feels I must be stuck in a nightmare from which I cannot wake. I am so shocked that other women are joining this madness and selling other women up the river.

Will Labour women really be content if ALL the women's officers are men and ALL the students on the Jo Cox programme "for women" were men? If not, why not, if any man can say he's a woman? As there are no hormones or surgery involved, he can benefit from something then "trans" back once his fake transgenderism has served its purpose.

Regardless of her own personal feelings about this, I don't think Teresa Murray or the LP has the right to take away positions reserved for women and give them to men. It was the Labour Party that decided women NEED women's officers and reserved places. Whatever that reason was, it still stands.

I also find it incomprehensible that a woman would shut down opportunities for other women. Either they have been brainwashed, or they are themselves misogynists and secretly have always though that women do not deserve, or are unfit to be, to be in positions of power, and are glad that everything we've gained is going to be handed back to men, our "natural rulers."

Are we just going to stand back and watch this happen? Or just moan amongst ourselves? Where are YOU going to draw the line?

I am wondering if we can all get together and write a joint letter to Jeremy Corbyn or whoever is national women's officer, about this mass erasure of the meaning of the word "female" and "woman".

I think we need to start an actual organisation to show that we aren't going to just be trampled over in this way.

Any thoughts?

Koloh Fri 01-Dec-17 09:31:46

I would sign the letter. I am leaving the party over this.

Koloh Fri 01-Dec-17 09:33:20

I will say also this topic is very low traffic and you'll get more responses in feminism chat, or aibu.

MaidenMotherCrone Fri 01-Dec-17 09:36:33

I'd sign too. I've already contacted my MP and withdrawn my support. I feel sad that it's come to this. Labour is failing us.

Superlandlady Fri 01-Dec-17 10:33:24

Koloh I don't know how to move a topic. I am new to MN.

Superlandlady Fri 01-Dec-17 10:33:50

How many women have left the party over this?

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed Fri 01-Dec-17 12:09:03

I've left the party. Just had an email asking me to reconsider, and talking about how much we can do for the economy, housing and the NHS if we work together - which, as a good socialist pushes all my buttons. However, at the same time, I look at the people I am expected to do this work with, and their attitude to me as a non-penis owner, and I feel very conflicted.

I suspect they rely on that though, that women will swallow their misgivings the way they have always done, because it's for the greater good.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed Fri 01-Dec-17 12:12:12

One more thing, I come from a long line of Labour women, my great grandmother was a shop steward, her sister was a councillor at a time when few women stood for political office. I think they would be very perplexed at the current situation, and I can't imagine either of them expecting me to just go along with it.

RogueBiscuit Wed 06-Dec-17 04:10:28

I've left along with my dh over these issues. We've both said why. Maybe there needs to be a mass loss of members for them to take womens views seriously.

Lancelottie Wed 06-Dec-17 04:18:15

Oh goodness, it’s not funny, but ‘a mass loss of members before they take women seriously’ is an, ahem, unfortunate turn of phrase in the circumstances

Movablefeast Wed 06-Dec-17 04:34:15

I was just reading an interview with Angela Davis this from earlier this year who has been an activist for over 50 years. She said that in any political organisation women do the majority of the grass roots organizing and unglamorous graft. If this is the case I hope it can be shown statistically with Labor so they understand they are undermining snd alienating their hard working activist base.

Ereshkigal Thu 07-Dec-17 17:43:02


If you report your thread to MNHQ and ask to move it to Feminist Chat, they should do. That has much higher traffic.

SuitedandBooted Sun 11-Feb-18 21:52:12

I have left the party, and am currently writing to every MP in Parliament to express my disgust at the proposed changes to the GRA.

Labour have lost votes already - down from 46% to 40% according to Poll for YouGov.

I would happily sign a mass letter, or join an organisation. I am a swim team manager, and apparently I need to be "educated" into accepting men with "girly feelings" changing with the girls in my team - Stonewall have sent a particularity disingenuous piece of propaganda to Swim England, and they are just going with it!!

Wanderingwomb Fri 23-Feb-18 21:30:34

Would also sign a mass letter. Will be leaving LP, just not had the time to draft my email to them. Also wondering, if it comes to it, what the best way to spoil a ballot is?

TerfyMcTerface Sat 24-Feb-18 22:08:42

Wanderingwomb - I plan to draw a new box on the ballot paper with XX in it, and then write next to it: "No to self-Id. #sexnotgender".

malaguena Mon 26-Mar-18 13:52:56

I was planning to join to support Corbyn but didn't because of this. After much talk, my husband who was a member agreed to leave the party. I know many women who were not members but loyal Labour voters, and who will categorically not vote Labour because of this. We are angry and we will not be silenced.

TerfingHell Wed 28-Mar-18 17:12:07

Malaguena ~ I think this thread is dead. All feminism stuff seems to take place on the Feminism Chat, even if it's about activism

SueChallis Sat 31-Mar-18 18:15:51
Looks like the tide is turning?

invisibleoldwoman Sun 01-Apr-18 19:55:57

I would sign it

newtlover Sun 01-Apr-18 20:00:24

would it be worth a letter from women voters, rather than members?
although I have already tild my MP they risk losing my vote over this

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