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how to find a way out of depression without AD as DH would rather file for divorce than have me on medication.need help!

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Luise85 · 15/01/2010 12:11

i just can't take it anymore, so much negative has been ruling my life last year that I don't feel like myself anymore. Spent this whole morning just crying and could not stop.
We have depts, money is extremely tight as I am mostly the only one with a steady income.we could not afford renting a flat anymore, living under awful conditions with inlaws since half a year.DS is.14 months, I look after him during the day but work at night. I am starting to miss shifts now as I am too tired, which all makes it worse but I find it so hard to exist with such little rest. DH works freelance in the financial field and is gone during the day trying to find business which is a struggle too. He is very caring but tired of me and off building me up constantly. He thinks I don't need medication but work on myself.
Are there any organistions that offer free counselling?

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cyteen · 15/01/2010 12:19

Didn't want your post to go unanswered. Have you been diagnosed with depression in addition to all the life stuff that is going on, or do you feel depressed because things are so difficult? I ask because it makes a difference to the type of answer someone might give. Anyone living under such a lot of strain would feel exhausted and miserable, so it's not surprising that you're finding it hard, you poor thing.

I think you need to sort out all the different issues that are at play here. Counselling might not necessarily help much if you're still stuck in a bad living situation. Have you spoken to your local housing department about being rehoused?

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NotQuiteCockney · 15/01/2010 12:26

Why is it your DH's decision whether you take medication?

I've heard good things about the counselling provided by Mind - I don't know if it is free, but I'm sure it's subsidised.

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SkipToMyLou · 15/01/2010 12:33

Why can't you take ADs? They worked miracles for me, plus it will take ages to get counselling on the NHS and you sound like you need help NOW! They don't work for everyone but they're a perfectly valid form of treatment.

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SnowWorm · 15/01/2010 12:37

There is a significant possibility that medication will help. And the strength of your DH's reluctance to see you taking them suggests that it is a prejudice on his part, not an informed scepticism.

I hope that you feel able to go to your GP and discuss all treatment options constructively, including medication.

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expatinscotland · 15/01/2010 12:37

So, if you had diabetes, he'd be adverse to your taking insulin?

Because depression is an illness.

YOU are the one providing the income AND looking after the child and he's telling you need to work on yourself?

I think I'd tell him he needs to work on getting a JOB.

No wonder you're knackered!

It's not his decision if you take medication for an illness. It's yours, together with help from your doctor.

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expatinscotland · 15/01/2010 12:39

If he were very caring he'd step up and look after you by not expecting you to survive on so little sleep.

He'd be an adult and do his part providing for his family so you wouldn't have to sponge off his parents.

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ChloeHandbag · 15/01/2010 12:39

Have you tried StJohns wort my sister was on it for a while after a chat with her GP. She didn't want to go on AD's and was put on the waiting list for counselling, but the GP sugested SJW. GP said that in some countries it's prescribed and has been proved to be effective. I'd do some research though as my sister had to come of the pill which was something to do with the SJW. Anyway it really helped her get though a tricky patch in her life.

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controlfreakery · 15/01/2010 12:40

if you haven't already done it please go and see your gp asap. tell them honestly how you are and ask what they advise... if it's ads then take them! if you are ill it's sensible to get a medical diagnosis and follow any prescribed treatment... just like your dh would if he was ill (i expect). your health, your decision. ask about what counselling might be available when you're there. good luck

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Pancakeflipper · 15/01/2010 12:41

Possible alternatives to AD's like acupuncture/ therapies etc cost money which seems to be top on your listvof anxieties.

As already said - think you need to get a diagnosis first. Please see a DR.

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nickytwotimes · 15/01/2010 12:41

I am at your dh having the choice of your taking meds or not.

Meds can be a big help alongside sorting the anxiety/depression/problems. They help you get to a place where you can get to grips with things slowly.

You sound utterly exhausted. You cannot work at night and care for a baby all day every day. This would contribute greatly to anyone feeling depressed.

Can you get some help with childcare in the daytime so you can rest?

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Hassled · 15/01/2010 12:42

Unless your DH is a medical professional, then ignore him and let a medical professional decide what the best treatment for you is. It's like taking advice from a gardener about your tax return. It's bollocks.

See your GP pronto. If she/he thinks you needs AD then accept their judgement. And I hope you feel brighter soon.

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nickytwotimes · 15/01/2010 12:42

And yes, you must see your GP.

ANd your oh must pull his weight.

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FabIsGoingToBeFabIn2010 · 15/01/2010 12:43

Your H is not a doctor and can't possibly know if you are depressed and need ads. Would he deny you medication if you had a headache, cancer or any other illness? You need to go back to the doctor and tell him/her how you are feeling and get some support and help. You also need to tell your h he is being an arse.

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FabIsGoingToBeFabIn2010 · 15/01/2010 12:44

Maybe YOU should be the one filing for divorce. FFS. In sickness and in health..

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lucyellensmumagain · 15/01/2010 12:50

Oh dear, you sound exhausted you really do. I can totally sympathise with you - I know how damaging debts can be, its just horrible.

It really isn't your husbands decision as to whether you have medication or not. FFS - like others have said, he needs to get a JOB instead of fannying about with freelance stuff that isn't working - what exactly is it that he DOES all day now??

You are pretty much supporting everything, if you crack up,and if you carry on like this, you will - then he will have to pull his finger out of his arse.

Are you in the UK? Can you not qualify for social housing?

As expat has said, if you had diabetes he wouldnt even suggest you dont take it.

I can understand he is scared, but its not like it used to be - you don't become a zombie on medication, you just become more able to cope. I have been on citalopram for nearly three years now, they really helped me and saved our relationship, now im coming off them and my DP is lol, he likes the nice calm me!! But seriously though - my DP was quite anti medication because he didnt understand it, but he recognised that it was my decision and actually, in the end, it was HIM who marched me down to the doctors and said that i needed them as i was wary too but i just completely broke down one day.

They wont make your problems go away but they do make you more able to cope.

With regards to the debt, are you getting anywhere with sorting it out?

Please do phone the national debt line, or consumer credit counsel - they are fantastic, and will arm you with lots of information regarding your rights, getting interest frozen on loans etc. We had, and still have, so many scary horrilb debts but talking to the debt line meant that i no longer felt out of control and that we were working towards a solution. It is so very hard and so very draining i know.

Is your DH usually so controlling?

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wukter · 15/01/2010 12:51

You sound exhausted and that makes everything worse. You work at night, mind LO during the day and if you are not in your own home you can't fully relax, even if your inlaws are the best in the world.
You need time to yourself during the day, for sleeping, or sitting in your room on your own with a book or laptop, or for a bit of exercise.
Does your DH need to be out all day, everyday?
Could your inlaws look after DC?

Also you do need to see a GP, and go with whatever they advise. Don't take any notice of your OH, simply shrug and say you are going to follow your doctors advice and review the situation in a few months.

If he had a medical degree then a) you could follow his advice and b) you'd have no money worries!

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StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 15/01/2010 12:56

Your dh needs to have a chat with mine. I have suffered depression for most of our marriage, and he has done his best to support me for all of this time. Even though I am at home all day, and the children (teenagers) are at school, I often find myself too depressed/tired to do stuff round the house, so he will come home from work and cook the dinner, or do the ironing.

He doesn't do this uncomplainingly, and it has caused tension over the years, but I can't blame him for this, as it cannot be easy to live with me and my problems.

Please, please please go to your GP and ask for some help. They may be able to refer you to a community psychiatric nurse or for counselling. And if you need antidepressants, then it is NOT up to your husband whether you take them or not, and threatening to divorce you if you do take them beggars belief. Tell him from me that he should be ashamed of himself.

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peacocks · 15/01/2010 12:57

God try Vitamin B6, it's the happy vitamin, works bloody wonders.

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peacocks · 15/01/2010 12:58

oh yes and its not up to your husband

sorry am a bit alternative and always like the non-drug route but it's really nothing to do with him

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madmouse · 15/01/2010 13:00

He's NOT caring - he's abusive.

And before anyone including you can actually tell whether you are depressed or not you need a few straight nights sleep! Let him get a job, any job. No one is too good for the factory or warehouse. Or at least take the children off your hands for long enough to let you sleep. Is he dreaming about the day when his business will be huge and he will be very successful. And expecting your support in that? Or am I reading things between the lines that are not there?

You are looking at things through his eyes and it is not good for you. Try to go and see your doctor as a starting point.

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cyteen · 15/01/2010 13:06

I really think the issues need sorting out here.

Money: as others have said, speak to one of the free debt advice services (Citizens Advice Bureau, National Debtline, CCCS) about managing your debts. Taking control of your finances is scary but empowering.

Health: go to your GP, have an honest chat with him/her about how you're feeling and what kind of help is available. They are your first port of call regarding treatment options, not your husband.

Housing: speak to your local council's housing department as a starting point.

Without knowing you, I don't feel able to advise about the family relationships etc. but I really hope you can find the strength and time to start making small positive steps in the right direction You don't have to do everything at once, just take one thing at a time, one small piece at a time. And your husband needs to help you, absolutely.

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Luise85 · 15/01/2010 13:11

Thank you for all your replies, I will go into detail a bit more so you can understand where dh is coming from. He once had a very tough time with depression and suicidal feelings a couple of years back (before we met) but he did some therapy (life training I think it was called) which helped him a lot. As for the work situation it's complicated. He needs to invest the time in order to progress and it seems just a matter of time when things will be alright again, but the waiting is awful! On the weekends he looks after ds for me to get sleep, as I can choose to put my shifts on the weekends sometimes. Help for childcare is unfortunately not possible as my family is abroad, his parents too old and to pay extra not an option.
I was due to see my GP yesterday, which ended in disaster, I was fifteen minutes late and couldn't call them on the way to inform them which resulted in them not allowing me to be seen. I was hysterical and embarrassing, not keen on going back too soon! We have an hour to travel to the practice as it's near our old flat for some reasons we had to keep the adress for now. Will make an appointment soon though.

Thank you for your replies, it's good to get some feedback!

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twolittlemonkeys · 15/01/2010 13:15

Firstly it's really not up to your DH and I'm appalled at him being so unsupportive. He needs to step up and get more work not expect you to work harder and look after children when you are so down. I'd go to your GP - I was offered free counselling for my PND. Also HomeStart may be able to help you with a volunteer to come round for 3 hours once a week (you could probably catch up on sleep during this time) I second the idea about speaking to your local housing department.

In addition, simple things like going for walks in the fresh air (yes I know it's the last thing you feel like doing, it was in my case) and making sure you drink lots of water can help

A friend of mine had severe PND and got out of it without ADs and she swears by making certain dietary changes probably along these lines
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/how-to-beat-depression-with-the-right- diet-1817675.html

I really sympathise - I suffered with depression after DS2 was born and it was horrible, even with a very supportive husband. Hope you manage to get the help you need.

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wukter · 15/01/2010 13:18

Well, I'm glad he worked out his depression problems. Now it's your turn and you will choose the approach that works for you. Do go back to the GP - if I was you I would play up the incident yesterday as "evidence" of how bad you feel, it might get you seen ASAP.

Could your DP get a few weekend shifts as barman or whatever? It would get money coming in while leaving the days free to work on his business, if that's what's neccessary and you are honestly happy with this waiting. He does need to contribute a bit more in the here-and-now whether that's by ennabling you to rest a bit more, earning some cash.

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StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 15/01/2010 13:20

Your dh needs to realise that everyone is different, and what worked for him might not work for you.

I have to say that I still cannot understand why he is so opposed to you taking antidepressants - why on earth is that a divorcing issue?

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