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SnowyMouse Sat 26-Jan-13 18:20:57

This evening the crisis team asked me if I would be better in hospital. There is no way I want to be in hospital, how can I persuade them otherwise? (other than saying I'm fine, which doesn't work).

Or the alternative, how can I persuade myself that I would tolerate hospital...I've had a few stays in the past?

SnowyMouse Sat 09-Feb-13 16:30:58

Thanks NanaNina smile. I hope your headmonster stays away. I have a fleece sleeping bag which is good for naps.

NanaNina Sat 09-Feb-13 16:06:44

Snowymouse I think this "not supposed to good for you to nap through the day" is a bit crap to be honest. It's all well and good the medics telling us this when they have never experienced severe depression and the need to withdraw when we are very down. My CPN was always telling me not to nap in the day and not to isolate myself. My days are up and down and it's like being on an emotional rollercoaster and I want to get off!

I call my depression my Headmonster and he sleeps a fair bit and I am well and thenhwakes and goes on the rampage!! If I feel I need to nap then I do, either on the sofa with a blanket or on my bed with a nice soft mohair blanket over me. In fact I did this today and fell asleep but woke up feeling fair bit better

Like silverypussycat says we have decided it's ok to take a nap but not to overdo it (as in staying in bed all day) Yes take a look at the thread - there are a lot of poster on it now, but it is good to know others are having to find ways to manage bad days.

SO my advice is to take a nap when you need one, but keep up your personal hygiene (showering, brushing teeth etc). Do you have a nice soft blanket to cover yourself with for a nap.

SnowyMouse Sat 09-Feb-13 12:49:38

That sounds like a good plan smile It is nice seeing how everyone supports each other there.

TheSilveryPussycat Sat 09-Feb-13 12:41:55

am on vicar's bed thread, where we have decided tis ok to nap when low, provided we don't overdo it, and we are all supporting each other to manage our days. take a look?

SnowyMouse Sat 09-Feb-13 11:42:00

I'd been trying not to nap in the day because it's not supposed to be good for you, but I've decided a short nap is ok.

SnowyMouse Sat 09-Feb-13 11:29:10

No, it did help a bit thanks, it's too easy to dwell on things the CT have said on top of everything else. I would prefer it if they phoned rather than visited, but they will review on Monday

TheSilveryPussycat Sat 09-Feb-13 11:16:44

Just got up, how ya doin? was your last post ironic or did going back actually help?

SnowyMouse Sat 09-Feb-13 10:41:20

That helped

SnowyMouse Sat 09-Feb-13 09:14:14

I'm giving in and going back to bed I think.

SnowyMouse Fri 08-Feb-13 20:16:49

It feels best to stay away from people, I find it hard enough to let the CT in once a day. Hopefully when I'm feeling better it will be easier to let people in smile

TheSilveryPussycat Fri 08-Feb-13 20:02:53

can they come and just be with you? might it help?

SnowyMouse Fri 08-Feb-13 19:13:40

Yes I do, but I can't keep going on about it too much. It worries people.

NanaNina Fri 08-Feb-13 18:45:25

Well done snowymouse

Do you have anyone in RL (relatives or friends who can support you) Hope so.

SnowyMouse Fri 08-Feb-13 17:29:20

I've survived (in the nicest possible way) another CT visit. They are hard to tolerate, but I'm trying.

SnowyMouse Fri 08-Feb-13 08:56:48

Last time it was the voices I was struggling with, this time it's depression. Good point re: making a pros/cons list, it's hard to be objective about though. If they said day hospital or inpatient, I would choose day hospital, but they haven't said that.

NanaNina Thu 07-Feb-13 23:39:14

Hmm - if the day hospital helped last time, why do you think it won't help this time. You mention it's the voices and thoughts "getting in the way" - are they whispering to you that going to the day hospital is not a good idea. Wouldn't going to the day hospital be better than going in as an inpatient.

Have a think about the pros and cons of going to the day hospital (maybe write them down) and then it would be possible for you to talk to the CT about this. I know you struggle to find the right words with the CT but writing things down, will maybe help you to think more clearly and help with communicating with the CT.

Take care of yourself snowymouse (just love that nic name!!!)

SnowyMouse Thu 07-Feb-13 17:35:15

I hear what you are saying, NanaNina. I'm not not wanting to do it because of stigma, it's the voices and thoughts which are getting in the way, when I've been unwell before day hospital did help, it feels like it wouldn't this time.

NanaNina Thu 07-Feb-13 17:20:11

Glad lurking on MN helps - does the same for me, but I think snowymouse that you need to try and stop fighting your illness and those trying to help you. IF you went to day hospital, would they provide transport. What is it that you don't like about it - having to interact with others? Would this be preferable to in patient care. You say you need to be better by Monday but you know that that isn't realistic, so don't make goals for yourself that aren't achievable.

You have to accept that you are mentally ill at the moment (as all of us on the MN threads are of have been in the past) and need support in the same way that you would need care if you had a physical illness. I know that sadly there is still a stigma attached to mental health, but we can't let that stand in the way of getting/accepting the help that we need.

Sorry to sound bossy!!!

SnowyMouse Thu 07-Feb-13 16:40:46

I also think lurking on MN helps.

SnowyMouse Thu 07-Feb-13 16:36:32

Well the email I sent has got them (more) concerned about my level of risk (and they have copied it to everyone and my notes). They are really pushing day hospital now, but I really cannot face it so they will review that on Monday.

The CT have said they will do daily visits rather than phone calls, it feels like a backwards step to me, but they say phone calls aren't working.

It was very hard to let them in, but I suppose at least I did.

I need to be better by Monday.

SnowyMouse Wed 06-Feb-13 18:30:58

I have been open with the CPN about plans, easier to write than say. I see her tomorrow afternoon, so I'll see what she says then, thanks.

springpotatoe Wed 06-Feb-13 18:28:06

But you have been really good so far smile

NanaNina Wed 06-Feb-13 18:27:38

I don't think you have "dropped yourself in it" by e mailing the CT about your sucidal thoughts. I think you have been honest with them and they can't ask for anything more. OK It might increase their concern but you must remember that they are acting in your best interests.

The thing about suicidal thoughts is that they are a very common symptom of depression. Thankfully it's suicide ideation in most cases (where you think about suicide and methods etc) but you aren't going to actually make an attempt on your life.

When I am having a rough time with depression, I think of suicide quite a lot and I go through the methods that I know, but I don't think I would go through with it.

What do you mean snowymouse that you think you are in danger of attempting suicide. Have you made a plan. I think it's really important that you are honest with the CT.

SnowyMouse Wed 06-Feb-13 18:15:36

The CT will ring me later. Apart from that it's up to me, staying home is no more safe than going out at the moment.

TheSilveryPussycat Wed 06-Feb-13 18:12:19

So have you got any strategies to keep you safe? which aiu means staying home at night...

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