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Mental health

What is wrong with my brother? (sorry quite long)

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Zakinthos · 14/07/2012 20:45

My db is 54 and has always been a difficult person to get along with. He has never married but has had loads of relationships, the longest being around 3 years. He has anger problems, smokes dope regularly, has had many periods of depression, is very emotional, verbally 'picky' about anything I say (will correct my grammar, take things literally), finds it difficult to accept other peoples opinions, and can be very impulsive in terms of behaviour. He talks in an over loud voice and cannot see that this is the case. He is a reckless driver in my opinion. If someone cuts him up, he goes ballistic. He does this disgusting 'clearing his throat' thing regardless of who's company he is in and is very critical of what he considers my materialistic way of life. He lives in a wooden cabin with a compost loo and is rather 'hippy' like still. No offence to hippies, just trying to present a picture of him. He's quite happy to avail of facilities in my house when he stays here however but is very clumsy and often ends up breaking at least something every time he stays. He is very very intelligent and could have done anything career wise with his life. However, he has spent the majority of his life on benefits with intermittent jobs. He has threatened suicide in the past and has threatened to one day kill his ex (mother of his daughter) as she has been very difficult re:access. Empty threats I think. He threw a glass of wine over my dh last time he was here as dh had had enough of him being critical and told him so! He can get very involved in things - has spent whole night playing Internet chess before. He over reacts to things too. He hates dogs (didnt used to though as we has a family dog) and when I got a dog he screamed at me to get the dog away from him and jumped on a table. The dog just hides from him - she knows there is something weird about him! He seems to have friends - I think he thinks they are closer friends than they actually are though. He is into playing music and often goes to music sessions in pubs to play and socialise.
He also drinks a lot of alcohol and can get more confrontational when he drinks. He just always seems so angry all the time and moans constantly about things. Very anti authority too and loves to 'get one over anyone in authority' - deliberately carried knife hidden in hand luggage on plane to see if they would find it. Delighted when they didn't.

I was thinking either borderline personality disorder or aspergers syndrome. Any ideas anyone? I have just come to the stage where I feel I have to discuss his behaviour with him as I just can't face having him to stay anymore.
Any help much appreciated.

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Showtime · 14/07/2012 21:21

Sad story about your brother, and sorry I don't know what his problem is. I don't think that you do have to discuss his behaviour with him, apart from reminding him about the wine-throwing incident if he asks, just don't invite him to stay again - it's unfair on the dog.

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yellowraincoat · 14/07/2012 21:25

I don't think you or anyone here can diagnose. That's really for the professionals (and even they get it massively wrong sometimes).

I have borderline. It is a horrible isolating condition.

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monsterchild · 14/07/2012 21:30

I think whatever he has, you don't need for him to stay anymore! He's rude to you and your DH and isn't very grateful for things.

I can't tell you what he has, but it sound more like lacking social skills, which is more like Autism than Borderline. Has he been to a GP recently? you can't get his diagnosis unless he says it's ok, but maybe contact a borderline or autism group and see if they can at least give you some advice on dealing with him?

Good luck!

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Zakinthos · 14/07/2012 21:44

Thanks for replying! He has admitted he has some aspergers traits before but had the cheek to suggest my dh had borderline personality disorder after wine throwing incident (which he doesn't!). Anyway I looked bpd up and decided db seemed to fulfill many of the criteria but then he seems to fulfil the criteria for other labels too. I guess I should stop googling. I was just wondering whether he would be happier if he had a diagnosis and whether I should talk to him about why I don't want him to stay anymore.

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Ginga66 · 16/07/2012 00:32

I had borderline and work in mental health and it does not sound at all like this. It is not right of course to try and diagnose here but I sympathize with you as i have a brother with similar qualities - he plays chess endlessly, addicted to alcohol, weird relationships, lack of social awareness. It does sound more like aspirers and/or some schizoid traits.
Saying that all you can do is accept he has issues but if he has no insight and no desire to confront them you cannot affect him assuming he is not presently danger to self or others. If he gets suicidal you can try engaging local mental health team via gp who may diagnose.
I don't see much of my brother, some of his lifestyle choices are not healthy for my dcs to be around. Having recovered from my borderline pd I know change only happens when the person is ready so you need to do what is best for u and ur family and let him tread his own path. Detach with love I guess, it's what I have had yo do anyhow.

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darksideofthemooncup · 16/07/2012 00:37

Please don't try and diagnose him via google. He clearly needs professional help and I understand that you are doing all you can to help him. Can you talk to his GP? It may be a start.

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tigercametotea · 16/07/2012 00:46

He may have some sort of ASD and/or ADHD and/or some other mental health difficulties as well. Well, since these things usually are co-morbid (meaning people with ASD/Aspergers often also have other mental health problems like depression) and yes when you say he has difficulty holding on to jobs/career and mentioned"he's very bright and could do anything he wanted if he tried".. well that's also quite a common comment from family/friends about people who have the sort of conditions I am referring to. The thing though, is that with such people, it can often be the case that it's not that they haven't really tried hard at something, but that the inherent difficulties they encounter because of their condition makes it hard for them to succeed in a career.

Well the fact that he can be a bit of a loose cannon while staying at your place means you have valid reason not to let him stay any more. He is potentially violent, it sounds. Definitely should seek some form of help like therapy etc. but as he's an adult now it is completely up to him to seek that help - you could suggest it to him perhaps. I would not personally feel safe allowing someone like that to stay at my place even if he/she was my brother/sister. If you are not comfortable about him staying, just let him know that he has an anger management issue, and that he might want to consider seeking help from his GP as a starting point, and because he threw a wine glass at DH in the past etc. etc. which could have potentially wounded someone really badly, you are not willing to put up with it again unless he has tried to do something about his temper. It is your home and your right to decide who to allow to stay.

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Zakinthos · 19/07/2012 19:38

Thanks everyone - just realised I had three more replies! Tiger - he actually threw the contents of the wine glass at my dh but then held the glass in front of dh's face when dh stood up to protest. Luckily ds and dd weren't in the house at time of wine incident. He has had anger management therapy before which helped at the time I think but he seems to have regressed. He can also be very emotionally labile and prone to crying at anything, but definitely doesn't have ADHD.

I have actually emailed him to try to convey how upset I was about his recent behaviour as I just can't talk to him face to face (he will just yell at me or get upset that I am critisizing him). I will see how he reacts to the email - luckily doesn't live near me (hence I can't talk to his gp as lives in different country). You are all right though, I need to tell him that I won't put up with his bad behaviour again. I get so stressed when he stays here I don't sleep and get heart palpitations (is that what its called ? can feel my heart beating incredibly quickly ).
Thanks again

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manup2012 · 21/07/2012 08:27

The issue about the dog makes me think this is a,serious mental health issue but once cannot diagnose. He has chosen ti live the kind of lifestyle that makes it easier for him to cope, so is able to hide his problems from

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manup2012 · 21/07/2012 08:42

Oops! ...from others. He comes to you because you are his sister and won't give up on him. I have a brother just like yours but he often does get medical support.

I would never turn my back on him but I seem to be the only person who confronts his behaviour and that has sometimes been the thing that has then made him seek professional help. He then blames me afterwards about it. Hmm

One of the reasons it has been hard for him to seek help is that he still thinks having mental health problems is a weakness, it is something he can't accept as a health issue.

I would say he has narcissistic personality disorder developed as a coping mechanism for autism when he was younger.

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sparklekitty · 22/07/2012 15:38

Googling and diagnosing might not be the best idea. I was dx with bipolar but they said I was also showing many of the major symptoms for bpd too. Its very difficult for the profs to diagnose most MH issues, esp bpd. Best thing you can do is try and steer him toward help

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Zakinthos · 24/07/2012 23:25

Thanks manup - it's like he 'lets it all out when he sees me' but 'holds it all in' when in public, with 'friends'. Sparklekitty - He hasn't replied to my email yet - I will probably get the silent treatment for a while...But I will try to bring up the subject of getting help.

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fedup2012 · 26/07/2012 08:37

Perhaps you could subtly propose he does an online autism test? They are fairly accurate, and once he understands his behaviour he may let go of some of the problems it has created. This would not be the answer, but a way forward. You have done so well for him so far, it's time for db to do a little work on himself now.

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