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5:2 Diet Thread: Part Four! Sit down, have a cuppa..

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GreenEggsAndNichts Thu 20-Sep-12 22:36:04

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet. Both are two versions of Intermittent Fasting, which you can read more about here.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon recently, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like. Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average, on those days.

Here is a list of the links we've gathered so far about this diet. I hope I haven't left many out, but it was a 40 page thread! This is a good start for anyone, though:

First things first, here is a link to our previous thread, which we've outgrown. Lots of good support and ideas still to be found there. Here is the thread before that..

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

Here is a link to the first part of the aforementioned Horizon, subsequent parts of that episode are linked on that page.

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview.

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Important link if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

And for those already fasting, here is a link to 100 snacks under 100 calories. smile

Another food link, here is a link to the BBC Goof Food site, with a list of low-calorie soups.

We often mention basal metabolic rate (BMR) here. This refers to the amount of energy (calories) a person uses when at rest; so, the basic number of calories a person needs to stay the same weight. This number is often quoted as being 2000 calories for the "average" woman, but of course is different depending on how tall you are, how much you weigh, etc. Here is a calculator which will easily help you to find out what your BMR is.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing, btw. Most of us are new to this diet. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous thread, and they've been very helpful. Sorry if I haven't given credit where it's due, but it was just enough of a job getting them all in one post this afternoon. wink

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

Dosey Fri 21-Sep-12 17:52:34

Hi there ladies, I have had a very poor fast day. My weekness was when I did some baking this morning, I haven't stopped eating it. I will have to try again Sunday and make a mental not not to bake on a fast day.

Thank you for the new thread thanks

catsrus Fri 21-Sep-12 17:57:41

Well, non-fast day - and I turned down one of the homemade biscuits dd made last night shock. I did treat myself to 3 scrambled eggs on 2 slices of wholemeal toast for breakfast grin. Busy day today so grabbed some of the veggie soup from yesterday for lunch, but grated lots of cheese into it to make it more interesting. I think all the dcs might be home tonight so we might be in takeaway territory grin definitely will have a glass of wine and a bit of mindless telly after the day I've had!

Thina Fri 21-Sep-12 18:05:20

I fell of the wagon this week, big time sad.
Nice getting to know you all, I don't post much, but I read everything.
Thanks GreenEggs for looking after us and keeping us informed, DON'T ever leave us!!
On Monday I am going to have to be STRONG for my fast day.

GreenEggsAndNichts Fri 21-Sep-12 18:11:25

Thina whew, I read "nice getting to know you all" and was afraid you were leaving us. smile I'm not going anywhere, and hopefully neither will you. Try not to overdo it this weekend, and we'll see you back and fasting on Monday!

I have an odd weekend coming up. Today is my eating day, usually I fast Saturday then have two eating days in a row, Sun and Mon. This week we have a neighbourhood BBQ to attend on Sat. I'm very tempted to just fast and keep things as usual. I'll decide tomorrow. I'm such a creature of habit, even though I know I can move days around. smile

Thina Fri 21-Sep-12 18:36:16

Thanks GreenEggs, I usually do so well up til about 3pm. This week was TOTM and also a bad news day in the end. I was SO bloody stressed and being such a b*tch to the family, that I just stood in the cupboard and ate ... And ate .... And ate.... Omfg. Then Wed didn't do much better. Just having a large glass of red, long awaited. Keep up the good work y'all.

BuntCadger Fri 21-Sep-12 21:59:32

grin weigh in and another 2lb lost. That's 13lb in 6 weeks.

hoops997 Fri 21-Sep-12 22:00:57

wow bunt that's brilliant grin are you following ADF or 5:2?

TalkinPeace2 Fri 21-Sep-12 22:40:28

Here's a funny thing.
Feed day today. usual Friday pizza and wine - normally much too much wine. Not tonight - both of us ready to stop after a single bottle and both left bits of pizza.
It really does seem to be resetting both of our appetites .

PS - to all those who are succumbing to snacking and baked things : now that you have eaten those foods, do not replace them when you go shopping .... if it ain't in the cupboard you cannot sneak it :-)

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Fri 21-Sep-12 23:21:06

Hmmmm half way through a fast day. Was doing fine, had half a lush health bar when I got to 16hrs (1hr ago) and just had the carrot and coriander soup I made yesterday. Wasn't great to be honest - think DH bought shitty supermarket carrots, now gutted I've wasted 250kcal on non enjoyable food. Stuffed though.

Reckon I have roughly 100kcal to play with which I was going to save for emergency miso later but might have the rest of the health bar instead.

Doing a 25mile training ride tomorrow so will need to eat at 7am, it's 3:15pm now so if I want to eat anything else it needs to be now! Oh bugger. Guess that's my lot then.

On the 16hr thing, is everyone not counting milk in hot drinks, even if you're counting the calories?

BuntCadger Fri 21-Sep-12 23:31:06

hoops I've done:
Week 1&5: 4:3
Weeks 2,3,4 & 6: 5:2

I feel better on the weeks of 5-2 and will stick to that I think. smile

hoops997 Fri 21-Sep-12 23:35:24

I'm doing ADF and finding it ok, my mother said I look thinner today and when I explained the plan she gave me the hmm face. She thinks I'm starving myself and will faint at any minute.

I might do 4:3 to maintain if I get that far grin

pookey Sat 22-Sep-12 00:29:28

I am not counting milk in drinks girlwith but tbh prob should as milk is quite sugary and prob affects blood sugar. I have been drinking skimmed milk. Today I did what would prob be an intermediate day (Haven't looked into this term just guessing) I fasted for 16 hours + only drinking tea and coffeee with milk. I had a fish finger at dinner time then went for curry this evening and had a glass of red wine.

As someone else said not eating leaves more time to get on with things and I actually felt like I had quite a productive day!

hoops my mum would not be impressed with this diet so not going to tell her!

GirlWithTheMouseyHair Sat 22-Sep-12 00:38:55

My mum's doing it! Thank god because she's coming to stay for two weeks so we can keep each other on track. My brother is coming for 3 weeks afterwards though and pretty sure he'll be fairly unimpressed!!

I'm trying not to really tell anyone though as I can't quite explain it without it sounding really extreme and found in the past the more I harp on about a diet the less likely I am to stick to it!

Skinnyeye Sat 22-Sep-12 01:02:13

Hi all eating day today had come full fat lasagne and chips nom nom and lots of beer bed now night all

Dosey Sat 22-Sep-12 07:33:56

Morning. Well I am on an eating day today and determined to make it a healthy one....sort of. After I ate my body weight in baking yesterday, my tummy doesn't feel good.....why did I do that. We are going to mums for tea tonight so I will look forwarded to just ONE helping of pudding.

I haven't told anybody about this WOE. I don't need to loose weight, just.need to maintain my current weight and reep the benefits of this WOE. And sort out my sugar addiction.

Hope everybody has a good weekend x

Piebaldrider Sat 22-Sep-12 08:06:07

Welcome to the weekend eveyone and for me at least the sun is out and i shall enjoy some time in the open air with my horse. Today i can eat but the funny thing is after a fast day i just dont want too. I managed to do 3 fast days in my first week and yesterday was my first fast day on my second week. I said before i dont weigh myself because fluctuations can cause you great distress and myself to give up many times before. I have tried on my Jodhpurs that wouldnt go over my hips last week and today they are 3/4 of the way over my bottom and there is about a 5 inch gap between the sides of the waistband but thats a big difference on last week. It all seems to be shifting below the waist and today i ma wearing a pair of jeans that were not the most comfrtable last week and today i have pleanty of room so i think its working and i am happy.

Today is only day 10 .....

BelinaTheChicken Sat 22-Sep-12 09:22:01

BuntCadger that's an amazing loss, well done!

Finished my 3rd fast day yesterday, actually ended up under calories! Now I have two eating days in a row, hurrah! Not feeling hungry this morning, so will probably only have coffee until lunchtime. Night shift tonight and tomorrow night, and having previously never really eaten on night shifts, last shift I worked was on a fast, and I found myself gravitating towards the fridge every half hour to stare longingly at the contents blush. So think I may go a bit overboard tonight, so if I'm a bit healthier this morning it won't be too bad. Someone further up suggested that I wouldn't be able to cancel out the deficit on feed days, but I'm pretty sure I could manage it when faced with chocolate, cakes, biscuits and crisps at work!

Herrena Sat 22-Sep-12 10:46:58

Has anyone else found that if they have a larger-than-usual meal on a feed day, they feel really uncomfortably full? I was actually relieved to have a fast day yesterday because we had visitors for dinner the night before and I felt WAY too full, even though we had perfectly ordinary portions....

Looking forward to the weigh-in tomorrow, I've made it a weekly ritual to head down to Boots and use their weighing machine smile

BuntCadger Sat 22-Sep-12 10:57:01

Yes herrena and I can't stomach the thought of a Chinese or fish & chips. Gone off chocolate too

BuntCadger Sat 22-Sep-12 11:03:13

Thanks belina. Lol at night shift nibbling, I remember we used to scoff loads of biscuits and choc on night shift. Glad I don't do them anymore.

I've not gone hugely public with it as font want to feel under pressure. Resisted updating my Fb status with "1 more lb and I've lost a whole stone grin"..

Eating day and not hugh hungry. Had half skimmed/half water coffee,onken fat free yoghurt and slice of homemade banana bread.

HappyOrchid Sat 22-Sep-12 11:03:37

Well at the end of Week 7. I've lost about 4.25lb, will weigh in on Monday.

Went out with my German colleagues on Thursday evening having fasted all day & then dinner was bleurgh.

Potato soup (not too bad)
What can only be described as a black pudding spring roll, served with cabbage and mash with chives in, but it had been piped out & looked like that toilet duck stuff you can use.
Followed by ice cream and prunes.
Drank far too much wine to compensate.

Yesterday was a planned eating day. Had muesli for breakfast & a croissant with honey. Piece of flpajack for lunch & a smoked salmon on a slice of french bread. Then drank half a bottle of white wine at the airport and KFC crispy strips with salad when I got home.

Will fast today, but not telling DH as he says it makes me grumpy, but he hasn't noticed last 3 fast days!

HappyOrchid Sat 22-Sep-12 11:06:22

Herrena Yes, we usually have KFC on a Friday & I would have 3 strip meal with fries & 2 hot wings. But now have swapped fries for side salad and no hot wings and still couldn't finish the last piece.

My body is defitinely recognising full signals and I'm eating more healthily all round.

Ate about two mouthfuls of the blood sausage spring roll to be polite & then left it as did most people. What were they thinking?

hoops997 Sat 22-Sep-12 11:39:03

Need some willpower vibes, on a fast day and at a 2 year olds birthday party, sat with a glass of water thinking about all the nice clothes I can buy when I'm slim grin

GreenEggsAndNichts Sat 22-Sep-12 11:48:51

oh yes, I did make the mistake of getting the fish and chips last weekend when I went out with friends. Not only could I not finish it (not even close; only ate half, and it wasn't one of those massive takeaway sized things either) but I felt awful all night after. I think I can still manage to have chips as a small treat but two fried things at once- no way, never again. grin

BuntCadger Sat 22-Sep-12 11:54:49

greenegg I wonder why though. I literally felt sick after fish and chips. It's a good thing to not want the high fat but I do not get what has changed. When I've been pregnant I've gone off unhealthy food too.

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