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Lemond1fficult Sun 01-Sep-19 20:10:56

Hi everyone

I got the death certificate for my g-g-g-grandfather from 1857 and can't read the cause of death, as I don't think it's a familiar condition in today's parlance.

Would love a hand reading it, if anyone's able?

Lemond1fficult Sun 01-Sep-19 20:12:06

Close up of the offending word

justasking111 Sun 01-Sep-19 20:14:25

Sorry too faded to read.

Was he a miner?

sheshootssheimplores Sun 01-Sep-19 20:15:44

Feverous 4 months certified?

NoUsernamesILike Sun 01-Sep-19 20:17:12

Think sheshoots has got it

justasking111 Sun 01-Sep-19 20:17:50

Could try researching this site.

www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/webasm-9735/

RubHimSweetly Sun 01-Sep-19 20:19:08

I don’t think it’s feverous. Looks like an ‘h’ in there.

XXcstatic Sun 01-Sep-19 20:19:10

I can't read the actual cause of death, but the words after it in the Cause of Death column look like "4 months" and "certified". The "certified" has a line to his occupation of coal miner.

I am speculating here, but I am a doctor and there are some illnesses caused by occupation that we are asked about when completing a modern death certificate, for example asbestos exposure. I wonder whether the "certified" in the cause of death column means that his cause of death had been officially linked by the doctor to being a miner. NB this might all be wrong - it's just an idea smile

OtraCosaMariposa Sun 01-Sep-19 20:21:54

I had a look too and agree Feverousness or Frevrishness or similar. The capital letter looks like a S but definitely isn't when compared with the "Seventh".

Feverous is one of those catch-all terms which doesn't tell you very much. 35 though, no age.

washyourface Sun 01-Sep-19 20:23:27

But there's a dot which makes me think one of the letters is an i

Fervish?

Arriettyborrower Sun 01-Sep-19 20:23:44

It looks like perilous 4 months certified. But I have no idea what that means!

wowfudge Sun 01-Sep-19 20:24:23

There's an 'h' in the middle of the word. I think it says 'fireshower 4 months certified' meaning he died as the result of injuries suffered in a mining explosion. Poor man.

XXcstatic Sun 01-Sep-19 20:25:39

Fever or feverish shouldn't really be given as a cause of death, because it's a symptom, not an actual cause. But that's not to say that Victorian doctors always followed the rules...

To me, the first bit looks like "Perish" but I can't think what would go after.

DarkHumour Sun 01-Sep-19 20:27:23

I agree with sheshootssheimplores

BlossomCat Sun 01-Sep-19 20:27:42

Could the first letter be a P? Possibly saying Perish...something? Maybe he had a cancer or disease that made him very weak and thin?

OtraCosaMariposa Sun 01-Sep-19 20:28:10

Yes but we're talking 1857. Medical knowledge isn't what it is now, and if there were no suspicious circumstances there wouldn't have been any investigation into the death.

CrispMornings Sun 01-Sep-19 20:28:51

Persistent was my first thought.

64sNewName Sun 01-Sep-19 20:30:14

Looks a bit like “scirrhous” but that doesn’t seem to mean much on its own - I mean, I think it is a medical term of sorts. but it reads like an adjective.

XXcstatic Sun 01-Sep-19 20:30:47

Yes but we're talking 1857. Medical knowledge isn't what it is now

That's certainly true, but I'd still be a bit surprised if fever by itself was put down as a cause of death. And it doesn't really make sense with the 'certified' bit afterwards. 'Certified" would suggest that they did think they had some definite cause of death.

SpringFan Sun 01-Sep-19 20:31:10

dunno- but out of curiosity I googled diseases in miners in 1860 and found this
oem.bmj.com/content/oemed/9/2/93.full.pdf
(HISTORY OF LUNG DISEASES OF COAL MINERS IN GREAT BRITAIN:*PARTII,1875-1920)
It is an article from the 1952 BMJ. Interesting.....

FAQs Sun 01-Sep-19 20:31:47

Have you looked up any coal mining accidents in the year/place he died?

XXcstatic Sun 01-Sep-19 20:33:05

Did anyone else in his family die at around the same time, OP? If it was an infectious illness, they might have died of the same thing and have a more legible certificate.

FlamedToACrisp Sun 01-Sep-19 20:33:55

Could it be Scirrhous - a type of tumour?

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scirrhous

NannyR Sun 01-Sep-19 20:34:03

Four months certified means that the illness had been certified by a doctor and that it had been going on for four months. Can't figure out what the illness is though.

RocketRacoonsFurryBalls Sun 01-Sep-19 20:36:15

Could it be scirrhous?

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