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Occupation: Sheerluton (US)

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tonian Tue 04-Jun-19 21:16:17

I'm at a loss... this man was in his late 30s and lived in central New York ... if that makes any difference?

It's very difficult to read but it does look like sheerluton?

AyahuascaTrip Wed 05-Jun-19 11:14:05

Can you post a screenshot of it? What era was this?

tonian Thu 06-Jun-19 11:37:21

Actually it's speenluton... even so, still clueless and google isn't helping me on this one.

tonian Thu 06-Jun-19 11:39:45

It was taken from the 1855 census... his previous occupation in England was a farmer... but I'm aware that could be neither here nor there.

In addition, he lived in a building worth 6000 bricks with a small family. confused So far - so confused!

Thank you for anyone who can help!

MadameGazelleIsMyHomegirl Thu 06-Jun-19 11:48:17

Could the last bit be ‘tutor’? Could it be something to do with shearing (spelt wrong)?

AyahuascaTrip Thu 06-Jun-19 11:57:08

That’s a G at the beginning!

TheGirlWhoLived Thu 06-Jun-19 11:58:50

I thought something akin to screenwriter

RuffleCrow Thu 06-Jun-19 12:00:41

Screenwriter - in 1855?!

tonian Thu 06-Jun-19 12:40:06

I'm pretty sure it's SP...

Will post other words on that page on a bit to see if that helps.

Ellmau Tue 11-Jun-19 00:05:15

Is it speculator?

TressiliansStone Tue 11-Jun-19 00:08:15

I'd go with speculator, too.

tonian Tue 11-Jun-19 20:54:37

I was just about to post more writing.., but I think SPECULATOR looks correct, thank you people! smile

If anyone has an idea beyond the obvious about what that might mean in 1855 NY I'd be happy to take ideas?!

Does anyone happen to know what 6000 bricks means?

mathanxiety Tue 11-Jun-19 21:07:46

Is it bricks or bucks?

TressiliansStone Tue 11-Jun-19 21:57:00

Given it's New York, stock exchange may be correct. If the location were different I'd suggest gold (or other mineral) miner.

TressiliansStone Tue 11-Jun-19 22:12:48

There's this US Census Office guide, Occupations at the twelfth census, which lists occupation categories in the 1850 and 1860 national censuses (but not the 1855 NY census).

On page v, "Speculators" come under "Bankers and Brokers" – although there's also an exhortation on page ccxlvii, for the 1870 census, to "Call no man a [...] 'speculator', without further qualification".

They'd obviously learnt their lesson by then.grin

books.google.co.uk/books?id=sFvBOBYpU3AC&pg=PR55&lpg=PR55&dq=1850+occupation+speculator&source=bl&ots=KpKxATpVuy&sig=ACfU3U054Y7_AQ36SKg74G4fiwFagr50Cg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj5-vv5qOLiAhUyt3EKHS2wCx0Q6AEwCHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=speculator&f=false

TressiliansStone Tue 11-Jun-19 22:18:26

Speculation in land or real estate would also be very plausible in NY.

tonian Wed 12-Jun-19 10:39:22

Thank you so much!

Ellmau Wed 12-Jun-19 20:46:23

Investor basically.

Ellmau Wed 12-Jun-19 20:47:12

Investor basically.

Ellmau Wed 12-Jun-19 20:49:10

Investor basically. Sort of the equivalent of a hedge fund investor/business angel today. Presumably using the proceeds of his farm back home in England.

rollingpine Wed 12-Jun-19 23:55:58

I think the 6000 bricks thing is probably a guesstimate and relates to the size of the building, and from that the census people can surmise a rough value.

<wild stab in the dark and could be totally wrong...>

TressiliansStone Thu 13-Jun-19 00:05:52

Does it say, "brick, 6000"? Ie $6000?

Here are the 1855 NY questions:

Dwelling numbered in order of visitation; material of which dwelling is built; value; family numbered in order of visitation; name; age, sex and color (black or mulatto); relation to head of family; place of birth (county of New York State, other state or foreign country); married; widowed; years resident in this city or town; profession, trade or occupation; native and naturalized voters; aliens; colored not taxed; over 21 who cannot read and write; owners of land; deaf, dumb, blind, insane or idiotic.
www.nysl.nysed.gov/genealogy/censusq.htm

Knitclubchatter Thu 13-Jun-19 00:12:28

wow they sure collected a lot of information! insane or idiotic ;)

GlitterPixie Thu 13-Jun-19 00:23:59

Speculator

TressiliansStone Thu 13-Jun-19 00:39:39

Knitclubchatter, 1855 was the slimmed down version!

Check out the information they collected in 1825, 1835 and 1845, on that link.shock

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