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Does the careers service in the UK work?

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AnnMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 28-May-13 11:12:33

The National Careers Council are reporting to the Government on the current state of the careers service in the UK and they've asked for our help.

It's all very timely because it coincides with Mumsnet's Workfest, sponsored by Barclays on June 15th which is all about helping mums get back into work or start their own business (still a few places left if you're interested wink)

If you could take a couple of minutes to answer the following questions we'd be ever so grateful.

~ First off did you know there was a National Careers Service for young people adults and have you / your DC ever used it?

~ Are your children getting any careers advice in schools and if so what sort of age has that happened?

~ And what sort of career aspirations do you have for your children?

We'll let you know what the Gov say on June 5th.


TheFarSide Wed 12-Jun-13 21:18:39

I agree careersmum about the lack of connection between school and work. When I was at school in the 1970s, I distinctly remember thinking we should be taught more about how the world works and it feels sometimes as if things haven't moved on much.

One interesting thing, though: as a careers adviser occasionally working in schools, I have come across many young people who feel they're too young to be thinking about their future. This often applies to year 9s, but also to many year 10 and even some year 11 students.

Olderkidsaremine Mon 24-Jun-13 00:02:10

It sounds as though the career advice given out in schools is as useless as it was 6 - 8 years ago, middle child was told to do 'travel and tourism' as she liked holidaying abroad!! She got three A's at alevel and the youngest was told that as he liked shooting - was in the cadets - and didn't want to sit at a desk in an office then he should be a gamekeeper - yes a good choice because we, as a country, are always in need of more gamekeepers!!!shock Needless to say I told them both to ignore any other career advice they got unless they asked me about it first! One is now a teacher, the other is going to be on a graduate scheme in a major high street shop!

TheFarSide Mon 24-Jun-13 20:07:30

Olderkids qualified careers advisers are not so directive, and I'd be very surprised if one told your kids they "should do travel and tourism/be a gamekeeper". They have either been selective in what they reported back to you, or the person they saw wasn't a careers adviser.

A suggestion may have been made based on the conversation that took place. In exploring career options, it would be normal practice to ask a young person about their interests outside school, and if someone mentioned that they enjoyed travelling it's not unreasonable to ask if they have considered studying or working in travel and tourism.

The gamekeeper suggestion sounds like something thrown out by one of the computer career matching programs: these programs usually suggest a range of possible careers based on a students' answers to a range of questions. It's a real job and suits some people and as a careers adviser I wouldn't avoid mentioning it just because it's a small industry.

If I sound irritated, it's because I am saddened to see such sweeping judgments applied to careers advice. It is much needed and much appreciated by many young people, and in danger of disappearing without the support of the general public, including parents.

Hogwash Mon 09-Dec-13 16:18:01

I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to comment.

~ First off did you know there was a National Careers Service for young people adults and have you / your DC ever used it?

Yes, I used the National Careers Service a couple of years ago when I was thinking of retraining in various areas (didn't in the end due to child care issues). I had some excellent advice from someone who had a huge amount of experience and was able to advise on various very different options. I think people assume they deal with apprentice type roles, but they were well versed on post-grad options too. I have recommended them many times since to other people.

~ Are your children getting any careers advice in schools and if so what sort of age has that happened?

Nope - the engineering sector has its act together and ran an event in Yr 7, but nothing else.

~ And what sort of career aspirations do you have for your children?

They can do exactly what they want so long as they get a degree first

jompyy Fri 09-Sep-16 18:25:52

The NAtional career service is complete and utter rubbish. Everytime ive had to see them it has been a complete waste of time. Ive been lied to, questioned about my intelligence, given jobs off when told not to use indeed is a scam, a total waste of tax payers money. Just do it yourself. Do not give them any chance to help because they do not help.

childmaintenanceserviceinquiry Fri 09-Sep-16 19:01:15

my big issue this year was that mumsnet were posting incorrect information on their jobs board ie closing date and then blaming it on external third parties. Teflon, no ownership at all.

I am not sure that much "recruitment" advice or boards, especially that aimed at out of work individuals is that good. A lot of talk, and little action (but obviously with some very well paid individuals).

bouncer1966 Sun 30-Jul-17 17:51:41

I've just been reading Private Eye issue no 1449 who actually say on page 10 under HP Sauce columns that those who attend NCS are actually worse off than those who don't bother.
Not very good all around there, given the current dire jobs situation - gigeconomy, zero hour contracts, 800,000 neet etc.

I did attend something similar myself and the cv they did ensured that i actually got less interviews than the one i'd had done previously.

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