Westministenders: The Virus

Thanks red

Thanks Red.

Depressed pmk.

Thanks, red 💐

Yep, I miss just worrying about Brexit !

Pmk. Thanks Red.

Are they backtracking on the EU ventilator thing now?

Thanks, Red

Thanks red

mrslaughlan I run a foodbank. I'm also involved with a charity called www.acts435.org.uk

EVERY penny you give goes to the vulnerable person/family. It's totally run by volunteers and its set up was funded by a bequest.

You have to sign up to be a donor to the website. Huge choice of cases to give to.

HTH!

Thanks RTB, if only we could have Brexit arguments back eh?

(I feel I should point out It is a christian charity...in case thats an issue for you)

What is rather worrying is how little idea some business owners have of their own affairs.

There's a lot of 'my accountant just does it' going around. Is the profession really that bad at communicating? Some people don't even know if they receive dividends or a salary, and it has come as a surprise that they're not self-employed.

Rishi's scheme for the self employed is good
all else is pants

At least the cats are relaxed (and yes, they're still hogging my blanket )

Even in my low density Victorian era (big stone villas) inner city suburb, there was a lot of noise at 8pm. My downstairs neighbours were quite moved (both GPs - one with the homeless and the other with drug addicts).

pmk

PMK with cats in a less menacing moment than the last one

I am just glad my little town seems to be solid on complying with the lockdown and that I'm sharing it with three of my favourite people.

I'm also actually very grateful that I'm working for the NHS. I'm working my arse off from home, ridiculous hours and intensity, not frontline but nevertheless keeping things going because all our services are being reconfigured to maximise what we can do for patients. Feeling useful really helps.

I am however furious about the ventilator fiasco. Of course it wasn't a 'mistake' - it was anti-EU ideology and utterly pathetic.

Thanks red

Thing is I have been thinking about why the Gov. Decided bill was for two years though it can be changed in 6 months? Do they think Covid 19 will last that long? Or are they planning ahead for a no deal Brexit? Thing is if this crisis lasts till, say, September by then the country will be on its knees economically. Unemployment will be huge. Someone has to pay for all the bail outs ( we had a hint this afternoon saying that self employed taxes etc will have to be on a part with paye cos it won't be fair after he's just bailed them out.) And if course it will be the taxpayer. Then if we also end up with no deal this country will explode. To here will be many deaths besides Covid by that time, suicides, homelessness, inflation going through roof, starvation blah blah. So maybe the Gov. Foresee lots of civil unrest in the near future especially as everyone will be stir crazy by September! Or am I just too gloomy and pessimistic?🤔

Pmk...lots of porkies coming out of No10 😡

The figures for those who passed away yesterday were only for a 15 hour period as they have altered times of announcements and yesterday was the change over day hence low figure yesterday and high figure today. So not sure taking two days as average as technically one day was not 24 hours is a valid average.

I just don't know what to say. But I agree with HauntedHats and feel I share her 😡 a thousand times over.

And thanks, Red... PMK

Sos re the original 2 years:

It will take 12-18 months until the vaccines has been fully tested and is available in sufficient quantities for mass vaccination

So they may have just added on 6 months to cope with any slippage, plus civil disorder ....

However, that's no reason why it can't be renewable every few months

You're right:
with an economic depression, facing millions unemployed etc they are probably very worried about civil disorder from 2021
Then there's Brexit ....

sos I posted this about death stats at the end of the last thread:

Digging into the UK statements, it may be that the 115+43 were not for a full 2 day period, but only for about 32 hours

158 deaths in 32 hours would be worse than we thought
Let's wait for tomorrow's figures though.

Even when they seem to vary the time intervals of bulletins at random,
enough data points on a curve will show the trend

Yep, red and I posted earlier that the UK could have had 5,000 ventilators and millions of PPE that a UK supplier had sourced from partners

- so no wait for them to be manufactured

They waited 5 days, but noone got back to them, so they sold them to another country in need