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time4chocolate Thu 17-Oct-19 20:56:13

Quite coincidentally I too have been in negotiations today regarding the pubs licence and it's good news here as well, a deal has been agreed!!

There were no amendments or legal objections put forward so a shiny new licence has been issued and normal service can be resumed smile

Same rules apply.

Now let's hope Saturday's proceedings can go ahead without the usual dicking around and that what has been nigh on impossible during the last 3 years, a majority, can be achieved otherwise I feel we are off to hell in a handcart!

First drink is on the house 🍻🍷🍻🍷Cheers

BangersNmashNgravy Thu 17-Oct-19 21:02:45

Please form an orderly queue. It has been a rollercoaster of a day. I’m keeping off the drink. So a nice cup of tea for me and I shall retreat to the cosy chair beside the fire.

DustyDiamond Thu 17-Oct-19 21:53:59

Yay! Thanks for the new thread 🍷

Waiting in breathy anticipation for Saturday's shenanigans...

Still keeping sally in my thoughts & prayers 🙏🕯

DustyDiamond Thu 17-Oct-19 21:56:02

Saw this earlier - made me lol

frumpety Fri 18-Oct-19 06:55:10

What are the options left ?
1. WA is passed, then what ? We wander off victorious into transition territory, where not a lot changes whilst we have a bash at negotiating trade.
2. WA isn't passed, what then ? can the UK request another extension ?
3. No deal , not entirely certain how this might occur, but I haven't removed it from the options, because goodness only knows whats going to happen
4. Revoke, still slim to nothing odds on this outcome, depends on if 2 happens, but an extension is refused and how much people genuinely want to avoid 3.

Have I missed any ?

frumpety Fri 18-Oct-19 06:56:54

<Adds gingernuts to the biscuit provisions, a fantastic dunking biscuit> smile

NoWordForFluffy Fri 18-Oct-19 07:37:51

Dunking is wrong all round. I detest the texture of a dunked biscuit! shockgrin

time4chocolate Fri 18-Oct-19 07:45:00

Frumpety I’d take any option at the moment that meant MPs moved us forward in some capacity rather than what a lot of them have been doing which is spending 3 years looking at the 10 different ways to try and get us back to pre June 2016.

I have some Garibaldis behind the bar but they are not for sharing and definitely not for dunking!

NoWordForFluffy Fri 18-Oct-19 07:55:21

But if all of the Tories and the DUP had voted for the previous deal it would've passed bloody months ago. It's the leavers who've failed to leave, not anyone else.

The problem has been that there are so many versions of leave that the leavers couldn't even agree amongst themselves HOW they wanted to leave. And that was always the problem with this vote: 17.4m versions of Brexit!

BunchMunch Fri 18-Oct-19 07:55:42

I hope there is some progress on Saturday.
If the deal doesn't pass surely we're into no deal territory? All those MP's who said they just want to avoid no deal - I wonder if they'll vote for it. Or are they still hoping for remain?

May I have a hot chocolate please? Extra marshmallows too - it's Friday after all grin

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer Fri 18-Oct-19 07:57:30

I have some Garibaldis behind the bar

Exactly where behind the bar?

I just want to make sure they are safe <whistles innocently>

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer Fri 18-Oct-19 07:58:24

bunch

I think lakeland does chocolate bombs which have marshmallows in them

They looked really fun

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer Fri 18-Oct-19 07:59:22

Found it

DustyDiamond Fri 18-Oct-19 08:01:26

Garibaldis are only good for stabilising wonky tables or to traumatise children

dirtyrottenscoundrel Fri 18-Oct-19 08:07:00

When will we know the result?
Tomorrow night?

DustyDiamond Fri 18-Oct-19 08:20:18

No idea
I'll be watching most of the day I think (as I have no life)

I hope it's actual, proper incisive debate for a change instead of countless drones repeating variations of the following:

"We need to put it back to the people"
"Scotland is being dragged oot against oor wull"
"We want independence"
"Reckless Tory govt"
"Only true Brexit is a clean Brexit"
"The Tories want a race to the bottom"

I want to hear real analysis, questions, answers & considerations, & if MPs don't have anything more than a vacuous soundbite to contribute they need to stay sat down! (Applies to all MPs on both sides of the house)

dirtyrottenscoundrel Fri 18-Oct-19 08:25:08

I think it will pass as parliament knows the country is totally fed up with all this now.
I’m sure even some MP’s are bored with it & just want to get on with their normal work.

NoWordForFluffy Fri 18-Oct-19 08:59:40

Tell Peter Bone that, Dusty. He's one of the worst for that droning on, saying nothing, shit!

I'm at the allotment tomorrow, so will dip in every now and then when I take my gloves off!

howabout Fri 18-Oct-19 09:15:20

Morning all brew

I am willing to donate my lifetime ration of bourbons and pink wafers. In fact I hate them so much I would happily donate on behalf of the other 4 members of the family. If you don't tell them they'll never notice.

Otoh come Indyref2 the home demand for Tunnocks caramel wafers and teacakes will be so huge that exports will be severely restricted. Suggest you start stockpiling now.

Anyone up for a friendly game of guess the Saturday result?
I'll open the bidding with a punt at the Deal passing with 340 votes. (Seems like ex-Tories mostly on board and half dozen Independents.
Further to yesterday's analysis I think if there are Labour votes they will do it as a block which is at odds with what the punditry seem to think)

NoWordForFluffy Fri 18-Oct-19 09:17:51

I think the result will have 5 votes in it. Whichever way it goes (can't call it!). It could go either way, I think.

HateIsNotGood Fri 18-Oct-19 09:29:02

Mornin all - been hungovered for a couple of days (can't take my beer like I used to) but still popped in to check in, Dusty was 'on fire' yesterday.

I'll have a double machiato and some ginger nuts please.

And I'll take a punt on 327.

howabout Fri 18-Oct-19 09:34:19

BBC's Nick Eardley reporting Labour MPs voting FOR the Deal will NOT lose the whip.

DustyDiamond Fri 18-Oct-19 09:39:43

Anyone up for a friendly game of guess the Saturday result?
I'll open the bidding with a punt at the Deal passing with 340 votes. (Seems like ex-Tories mostly on board and half dozen Independents.

Oooh

I'm going with a split decision & Bercow having the casting vote 😱😂

I like to live dangerously...!

Seriously? I think most of ERG & Tory rebels will vote it through & rest of Tories will.
A handful of labour votes, one Lib Dem & a few independents.

SNP, Lib Dem, DUP & most of Labour will vote against

It will be abstentions that make the difference imo

howabout Fri 18-Oct-19 09:47:01

Gonna have to disagree Dusty. I think it's time for choosing in Labour so abstention is the lose/lose option for a Labour MP in a Leave seat.

Frank Field on the radio:

“The time for kicking the van down the street has ended. Labour MPs have to make a decision. They can’t keep saying if only this little bit were changed, then I would respect my constituents wishes.”

Just for good measure he added: Labour’s objections over workers rights are “absolute crap.” Labour are just scrambling for excuses to oppose Brexit. The whole point of leaving the EU is that we take back control over domestic regulations.

I am a massive Frank Field fan blush so may be mistaken in how persuasive he is.

DustyDiamond Fri 18-Oct-19 10:02:28

I honestly can't call it at all tbh Howabout!!

I'm also a big fan of Frank Field - I hope he manages to persuade wavering Labour MPs in Leave seats🤞

I'm a big fan of Caroline Flint too - she'd def be my pick for future labour leader.

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