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The Brexit Arms(980 Posts)
Hold the line Brexiters!!
Only 53 days to go!
I’m holding the line😊 - will be downing a few in the interim🍻🍻🍷🍷.
What will you do if, as seems likely, Brexit does not happen on 31/10?
I know it is a bit of a goady question but I am genuinely curious (as well as somewhat impatient to dole out portions of humble pie).
It'll be your fault if we don't leave on 31 October @Mistigri .
If Johnson comes back with a deal - a lightly modded WA, there will probably need to be an extension anyway.
Holding the line 😂😂.
Can the brexit cabinet hold it?
One wonders how any mps thought anything could be any different to what's going on now?
Savid said there is small team working to get a deal, one without leaks. That makes me feel happy.
Leaks give Remainers ammunition.
Remainers are in cahoots with Brussels.
The team working on no deal should have been up and working since the result 3 years ago!
There was brilliant tweet going around about this new reality and new meaning of words we are experiencing ill try and find it.
Re Boris and the law, the law is up to interpretation. That's why people who get the best most expensive barristers get the best law 😂.
If this new rushed law is flexible. Tough.
Does anyone really think he going to come back with a deal. The EU are reporting that no progress is being made.
Well Amber Rudd said they're spending 90% of their time and energy on No Deal not actually trying to get a deal. She should know ..
Seeing as the eu is in cahoots with Remainers here in Parliament I cannot believe anything they say.
I do believe Savid when he says a small team is working on a deal.
@Parker231 No. I suspect WA will be put again to the vote and it will go through.
Leo Varadkar is meeting Johnson tomorrow and has today said "It's important we remember that this is not about politicians, it's about protecting people's jobs, business and peace and security - and if an extension is required to do that, well I think any politician should be prepared to do that
We’re not leaving.
It’s all been a complete waste of time ( & money )
We will have to leave.
Otherwise we will need a whole new system of government.
How can any of us vote or get our dc to vote ever again?
I've been trotting to vote since I came of age, I've drummed in the privalige of voting to dc. Take them with us, show them, explain it all. I can't carry on when its a sham. I couldn't support dictatorial government!
We will collapse on ourselves.
Both sides seem a million miles apart in agreeing a deal, the principles haven’t changed so I can’t see there will any progress. Johnson says he won’t ask for an extension but the Benn Act compels him to do so if there isn’t a deal. I’m 100% wanting to remain in the EU but the position has become ridiculous and the UK are the laughing stock of Europe. I’m in Belgium this weekend and the comments about the UK are not complementary.
I agree with you Septembersunrays but there’s just too many remainers in power & they’re doing all they can to make sure we don’t leave.
The future of this country is not pretty.
I’d stay in the pub if I were you, probably the best place for most of us now
I know dirty. Love the user name BTW.
I wouldn't give up yet.
The back drop to this is a vote. It's incredible the mental gymnastics of some... That Boris and Cummings could break the oldest democracy.
A vote happened.
One side won, as ever.
The vote wasn't upheld.
"too many remainers in power " Sunday night comedy for you.😂 would that be the PM and the Cabinet?
Parker, so what!
Shall we laugh at no common language in Belgium, diff departments as shown up in the aftermath of battaclan? No police unity... Who cares?
We could find things to laugh at in every country... Who has the time or inclination. I really don't care.
It's sending out a klaxon to those countries who have strong leave faction however.. The eu in cahoots with our Remainers!
Well remainers have up in arms over the past many months saying that government weren't making any plans for no deal, now they are.
Boris will present a deal to the EU, the EU will reject it, Boris will resign as PM (but stay on as party leader). JC will try and form a government on his own, this won't happen, so a unity government will be formed and once they have spent some days/weeks arguing about who would lead said government they will then ask the EU for an extension and will call an election (because Guy will stipulate that as condition of said extension) All to be achieved between 19th -31st Oct!!. Gonna be interesting.
Boris could then run an election on a leave means leave ticket and we are back where we were, facing a no deal.
The above seems to be the jist of what I have read in last 24 hours across various media outlets, of course it could be something completely different (I still think there may be a loophole in the No Deal bill).
@Septembersunrays - I am Belgian, living in London but incredibly proud of my country and being an EU citizen.
Tories can't win election without brexit party. And brexit said they will only do a pact on no deal which I think is unfair.
This is possibly the worse chess move Boris faces. There is definitely some catch in the Benn bill. But I am doubting mps resolve to see this through. Not one of them has any guts to see anything through.
Good for you Parker. But the spotlight on Belgium certainly highlighted mountain of problems within Belgium. As in.... Belgium is laughing at the UK.
Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament's chief Brexit co-ordinator, said it would be 'unacceptable' for Brussels to push back the UK's departure date in the current circumstances
He said: 'Foreign Minister Le Drian is right: yet another extension for Brexit is unacceptable, unless the deadlock in London is broken'
'Let it be a 2nd ref., new elections, a revocation of art. 50 or the approval of the deal, but not today’s helpless status quo'
If JC doesn't accept Boris' call for an election tomorrow is he going to be the stumbling block to an extension?
The French Foreign minister has stated that France won't give an extension under the current situation. DR says the Gov. is looking in to the legality of the Benn bill and I've heard that the Gov. are considering refusing to elect a representative to the EU council thus making the EU unconstitutional after the 1st Nov. That should make them think about agreeing to what BJ is proposing!!
Need to remember that the impasse in Parliament is as a result of the 2017 GE, a GE held after the brexit vote, if the country wasn't split preety much 50/50, a party would have got a majority.
I do not think its fair to equate an advisory referendum with parliamentary democracy.
I do hope that the next GE will produce a remain Govt but if it does not, then remainers have to accept that and vice versa.
Possibly time! It's sensational stuff.
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