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Plans to end freedom of movement on day after Brexit.

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DirtyToiletBrush Sun 18-Aug-19 16:05:46

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-eu-brexit-freedom-of-movement-ends-november-boris-johnson-priti-patel-home-office-a9064376.html

How is this even workable?

Hoppinggreen Sun 18-Aug-19 16:08:45

Don’t know.
I will be in Spain but will need to fly home a few days later. The complicated bit is that we will be flying home from Portugal so when I leave Portugal to go to Spain we will be in The EU and might need a visa to get back into Portugal to get on the plane home I’m not sure what will happen.

DirtyToiletBrush Sun 18-Aug-19 16:11:30

@hopping

I think Spain and Portugal are both in Schengen so don’t have passport checks for people travelling between the two. Good luck though!

CraftyGin Sun 18-Aug-19 16:16:03

Isn’t that what Brexiteers voted for?

DirtyToiletBrush Sun 18-Aug-19 16:18:13

There’s nothing in place though. EU citizens were told that they had until the end of 2020 to apply for settled status. This has changed the goalposts.

YeOldeTrout Sun 18-Aug-19 16:28:48

Was end 2020 to do with the transition period? There is no transition period if we crash out.

StockTakeFucks Sun 18-Aug-19 16:37:20

Deal is 2021
No deal is end of 2020

The EU Settlement Scheme is open. You can apply noww_ if you meet the criteria.
The deadline for applying is 30 June 2021.
Which status you gett_ may depend on when you apply.
If the UK leaves the EU without a deal
You will need to be living in the UK before it leaves the EU to apply. The deadline for applying will be 31 December 2020.

StockTakeFucks Sun 18-Aug-19 16:45:17

Oh and even if everyone had applied already and got settled status there is no card or letter or anything "in hand" to prove you got it.

There is a link for anyone who needs to check your status where you need to provide them with whichever ID you used to apply. That's going to be fun at customs, without considering the fact that some might've applied with national ID but travelled with passport or the other way around.

Whoseagooddoggiethen Sun 18-Aug-19 16:49:36

What do you mean how is it workable? Ye have had three years to get your shit sorted. You wanted out, you are getting out and quite frankly its your own issue after 31st.

ListeningQuietly Sun 18-Aug-19 16:56:24

The UK settled status scheme does not accept payslips or home ownership as proof

I wonder what hoops that countries with lots of UK pensioners to support will bring in ....

DirtyToiletBrush Sun 18-Aug-19 16:59:21

@Whoseagooddoggiethen

I voted remain. I’m concerned about the hardline this new Government is taking. The article states that it puts EU citizens at risk of discrimination. So as a British passport holder, it’s not an issue for me personally but is likely to cause issues for EU citizens living here.

MaxNormal Sun 18-Aug-19 17:03:47

Great, the chaos of an unplanned crash-out clearly isn't bad enough for them, so they need to introduce more evil shit.
Bunch of cunts.

Hoppinggreen Sun 18-Aug-19 17:06:48

Yes dirty but my fear is that I may need a Shengen VISA as a non EU citizen. The border where we cross is currently open so hopefully it stays that way even for British people
Worst case scenario I get a longer holiday while it’s sorted!

Ulverstonian Sun 18-Aug-19 17:26:06

Hopping

It would be ridiculous for them to stop you leaving. I can see that the EU might stop people entering without a visa, but not leaving.

If you do end up having to stay for a few extra days, you’ll miss the shit hitting the fan here too! Win win.

BeardedMum Sun 18-Aug-19 17:31:55

I have lived here for 20 years, hold an EEA passport and travel in and out of the UK several times a month. My children are British citizens but also travel on EEA passports on a very regular basis. I don’t see how they are going to police this so just seem to play into a Daily Hell headline showing strength.

Camomila Sun 18-Aug-19 17:34:16

I think you get an email re: settled status? I'm planning to print it off and keep it tucked inside my passport.

I'm not looking forward to applying for settled status. I was between jobs May-Oct 2014 so I'm going to apply in Nov as then I have 5 years continuous NI contributions (though some are child benefit which i think doesn't 'count' ffs.)

Ulverstonian Sun 18-Aug-19 17:39:26

@BeardedMum

I don’t know they are going to police it. If an EU citizen who has lived here for years goes on holiday and hasn’t applied for settled status but is here legally, how are they going to distinguish between that person and another EU citizen who hasn’t lived here. I mean at immigration at airports etc.

BeardedMum Sun 18-Aug-19 17:41:28

@Ulverstonian, and business travel🤷🏻‍♀️

Outsomnia Sun 18-Aug-19 17:42:15

I'm hoping that all this gloom and doom, bad news, leaks, worst case scenarios etc. is just a way of turning the tanker around on the Brexiteer No Deal people, so that they might have to think it out again.

In other words, Johnson is running scared, and instead of making the right decision for the good of the country, is hoping that the country will rise up through fear and loathing and decide things for him.

Thus the Tories will stay intact.

Party and power before country again. You can see it happening right under your nose. Well I can!

Ulverstonian Sun 18-Aug-19 17:44:58

Also access to the NHS and benefits, those rights will still exist for EU citizens who can prove they were living here before 31st October 2019 but any new arrival won’t have those rights, I can see why people think the risk of discrimination towards EU citizens will increase as they’ll all be subjected to extra checks that British citizens aren’t.

BeardedMum Sun 18-Aug-19 17:45:23

But the Brexiteers are groomed to dismiss it all as Project Fear. That is how the Daily Hell is referring to the report too.
Re the end of freedom of movement. That’s what they actively want. It’s not a concern for them as they probably only go to Spain once a year and you know Spain needs their money so will let them in.

They won two wars!
#Blitzspirit
#leavemeansleave
#takingourcountryback

pointythings Sun 18-Aug-19 17:48:26

Camomila you do indeed get an email. I intend to carry printed copies when I travel with my DDs and also have it on our phones.

At least until such time as my DDs are done with their education and we can leave this country permanently.

BeardedMum Sun 18-Aug-19 17:48:53

Lol at email as the official document tho

LemonGingerCakes Sun 18-Aug-19 17:51:50

People who voted to end free movement (Brexiteers) are shocked that free movement is ending hmm

Camomila Sun 18-Aug-19 17:55:26

I just thought of a plus side of Brexit! Those of us with British DHs/DC can make our DHs wrangle the DC at airports while we go through the EU gates all by ourselves.

(It'll probably be a nightmare, I can imagine babies wailing mummmy or dadddy because they wanted to go through with the other parent and immigration officials huffing about it)

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