What If NO BREXIT???

[Bellydancerbynight]

Hi All..
As we all know..
Theresa may only resigned because she was not able to do Brexit..
And Boris Johnson(BJ) is appointed only for Brexit. But the Question is
WHAT IF HE TOO FAILS TO DO BREXIT?

[MsJaneAusten]

I’m not sure I understand the question.

It’s not currently a case of Brexit or not (unless the opposition get their arses in gear, which seems depressingly unlikely). It’s a case of whether we leave with a deal or without one.

[HeatedRollers]

WHAT IF HE TOO FAILS TO DO BREXIT?

He will be deposed one way or another.

[HeatedRollers]

It’s a case of whether we leave with a deal or without one.
We wouldn't be in this mess if the MPs had taken the EU deal, it would have made life better for many people, very few want a No deal, it wasn't great I know, it was better this this mess.

[SistemaAddict]

Millions of sick and vulnerable people, EU nationals, students, parents, young people, poor people will all breathe a huge sigh of relief.

[MockerstheFeManist]

"No Brexit" would be another short extension to have a general election on the BJ promise of No Deal versus call the whole thing off.

BJ does not want this, but has more than enought enemies in the Tory Party to make it so, Mister Dayta.

[Peregrina]

Sooner or later I expect the ERG to come for Johnson if he doesn't appease them.

[bellinisurge]

If only ...

[PersonaNonGarter]

Do you mean, what if the government revoked article 50?

That won’t happen. It isn’t in the manifesto for a start so they have no mandate to do it.

[Outsomnia]

There is no mandate for NO DEAL Brexit either.

To leave the EU yes, based on the referendum result, but voters were not told that leaving the EU would mean crashing out in a catastrophic way. Were they?

[berlinbabylon]

If only indeed. I actually thought Johnson could do it, but when he immeidately started filling his Cabinet with hardliners you realised that he wouldn't. Unless it really all is an elaborate bluff but I can't see it myself.

The best we can hope for is that because he's not bothered about immigration that he amends the red lines and we get to stay in the SM and CU. Most remainers could live with that I think and most leavers wouldn't care. But with the hardliners he has around him I can't see that either.

[MockerstheFeManist]

Parliament will revoke if the only alternative is No Deal, by voting No Confidence in Johnson and backing a caretaker PM (most likely Father of the House Ken Clarke) who will revoke then call a general election and resign.

[Outsomnia]

I cannot understand how the STAY side is as silent as it is, with some exceptions. Just an observation. You would think they would be full on right now.

But maybe they are waiting for Parliament to reconvene after a relaxing break!

For those who might be interested, there are great interviews with Ken Clarke and Rory Stewart (amongst others) on the "Full Disclosure" podcast by James O'Brien of LBC.

And before anyone says anything, I know J O B is a remainer. I follow intelligence and analysis. Well there isn't much out there, but I do try!

[Peregrina]

(most likely Father of the House Ken Clarke)

I wish, but at the moment, I do not have hope.

[frumpety]

I honestly think this is what is going to happen and we have the only person at the helm who could possibly get away with it.
I also think that the vast majority of the UK population will breathe a sigh of relief at never having to hear the word Brexit uttered again and anyone doing so will get the same treatment as someone who insists on going into a bit too much detail about their non life threatening medical condition in polite company

[Outsomnia]

Agree @frumpety.

We just want to get on with our lives without another layer of complexity. If Brexit was cancelled in the morning who would be shouting the loudest?

Well apart from those who will actually benefit like Fromage and the ERG etc. Who supports them I wonder?

[frumpety]

What is it that people see in Nigel Farage aged 55, that excuses him slagging off the dead mother of the 93 year old Monarch of the country he purports to love. Two women who were actually alive during the Blitz, unlike him. She is a sitting duck because he knows she can never respond or retaliate, just so bloody cowardly and unnecessary. Can you imagine holding anyone in esteem who did this to any other 93 year old woman ? All that money and privileged education, yet absolutely no class Nigel , shame on you

[Outsomnia]

Anyway, I have often wondered why UK has not just Brexited Hard already now. Right now, that is Johnson's policy.

Why wait.

They could go anytime now. But are cowards or bullies, take your pick.

Mad times.

[SinisterBumFacedCat]

I’ll throw a party.. 🎉🥂

[TheABC]

@Outsomnia, I have been wondering that, too.

@frumpty, I would love it if you are right. However, the No-Deal Brexit is the default, so Johnson would have to take some form of positive action in order to avoid it. Ian not hopeful..

[frumpety]

Have wondered the same Outsomnia if it is indeed simple and beneficial to everyone in the UK, why not this minute ? Why this faffing about until the clock runs down again ? The EU have spent years preparing for such a scenario, so the UK must be at least as prepared ?

[onalongsabbatical]

SinisterBumFacedCat I'm up for that party if no Brexit!
It'd be hurrahs all round in my vicinity.

[Oranginna]

What is it that people see in Nigel Farage aged 55, that excuses him slagging off the dead mother of the 93 year old Monarch of the country he purports to love.
He wasn't slagging her off. He was saying she was a boozer and a smoker and overweight but she still lived to over a hundred and he hopes the Queen does too. In his own rather naff worldview, being unhealthy and un PC is good because it's the opposite of being woke..

[jasjas1973]

“When it comes to her son, when it comes to Charlie Boy and climate change, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Her mother, Her Royal Highness the Queen’s mother was a slightly overweight, chain-smoking gin drinker who lived to 101 years old. All I can say is Charlie Boy is now in his 70s … may the Queen live a very, very long time.”

Farages criticism of Prince Harry was based on barely disguised racism.

You defending this man with in his own rather naff world view says it all... he is supposed to be a politician with ambition to high office, i'd like to think these sort of people are slightly better read.

But of course he is doing this just in case the Queen gets involved in brexit, his comments are already being excused, any direct criticism of the Queen will equally be ignored/excused.

[Peregrina]

Harry at least served in Afghanistan. Where exactly has Farage served?

Why do people have so much time for Farage?

[ghostofharrenhal]

Boris now laying down the foundations for blaming everyone except himself for No Deal. He really is a twisty little shit.

“There’s a terrible collaboration, as it were, going on between people who think they can block Brexit in parliament and our European friends.”

“And our European friends are not moving in their willingness to compromise, they’re not compromising at all on the withdrawal agreement even though it’s been thrown out three times, they’re sticking to every letter, every comma of the withdrawal agreement – including the backstop – because they still think Brexit can be blocked in parliament."

“The awful thing is the longer that goes on, the more likely it is of course that we will be forced to leave with a no-deal Brexit."

“That’s not what I want, it’s not what we’re aiming for but we need our European friends to compromise. The more they think there’s a chance that Brexit can be blocked in parliament, the more adamant they are in sticking to their position.”

I'm off to buy more baked beans.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/14/johnson-hits-out-at-terrible-collaboration-of-mps-and-eu-trying-to-block-brexit