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To be terrified of no deal Brexit

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elprup Mon 29-Jul-19 22:29:02

Having just watched the headlines, it really does seem that Boris is hellbent on taking us out with no deal. The fact he’s thrown down the gauntlet to the EU stating that he won’t come to the table unless they drop the backstop - well of course they’re not going to do that, and Boris won’t back down, so we will be leaving with no deal.

What do you think will be the repercussions of this? I’m terrified I’m going to lose my job and my home. If I’m worried then I can’t imagine what people reliant on various meds are going through.

I think I might stop watching the news as it just makes me anxious.

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Miljah Mon 29-Jul-19 22:34:27

Sadly, it is a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

I suspect, strongly, that given not many years ahead, 'we' (Leavers) will look back on the collective madness we got sucked into with the same incredulity we view our Diana hysteria.

What were we thinking? What are we thinking?

Peregrina Mon 29-Jul-19 23:11:26

I am very grateful for the long list someone posted on the prepping thread. I intend to print it off and start stocking up seriously. Fortunately I can afford to do that. I am also glad that neither me nor DH is dependent on medication - I wish I could say that for DB, BIL and MIL.

elprup Mon 29-Jul-19 23:14:06

I miss TM - when we were stuck in limbo with what seemed like no prospect of getting out. At least we were still in! But it’s really going to happen now, isn’t it?

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tobee Mon 29-Jul-19 23:14:09

Can you do a link please @Peregrina?

LizzieSiddal Mon 29-Jul-19 23:18:43

It’s a cluster fuck of epic proportions.

I’m so angry that we’ve been put into this situation by lying politicians one of them is now PM, and most of the others are in his cabinet. How the heck did this happen?

NoWordForFluffy Mon 29-Jul-19 23:23:26

@tobee, see this thread:

Peregrina Mon 29-Jul-19 23:27:07

You will need to scroll down a bit, for a very comprehensive list.

lovelyupnorth Mon 29-Jul-19 23:33:25

Luckily we sold our home and are renting. Jobs wise we lost a lot of work straight after the referendum and have changed direction to one which may thrive in the cluster fuck that’s coming. Our other business has no debt and could close down change etc.

Personally I’d like to leave and move elsewhere in the world by my OH less so.

Our DC already have dual-nationality if they need it.

Did contemplate staying in Canada where we are on holiday 😂😂.

I think it’s batten down the hatches time, cut spending and build our cash reserve further.

How anyone thinks Brexit is a good idea is beyond me. At least my Brexit voting in-laws have now seen sense when they’ve seen the GDs change nationality to keep the advantages of being European.

tobee Mon 29-Jul-19 23:52:34

Thank you @NoWordForFluffy and @Peregrina. A public service announcement grin

TooHotToHandld Tue 30-Jul-19 00:16:17

I'm insulin dependent and very worried. All my insulin, test strips, insulin pump and supplies are from Europe, so death is a very real prospect for me (and other type 1 diabetics) 😞

raskolnikova Tue 30-Jul-19 00:31:31

I've been living in Europe, but had to return to the UK recently (but really didn't want to). I want to go back again in the future, but it looks like I'm going to lose all my rights with a no deal Brexit, and in return gain... nothing confused

And what really upsets me is that it' my own country taking my rights away, not the one where I was living sad. Like you I have to avoid watching the news for my own sanity.

Janista Tue 30-Jul-19 00:42:24

I can't wait for a no deal Brexit.

There is so much handwringing and scaremongering going on at the moment.

People do not need to be scared of dying or prevented from living and working in European countries if they wish.

hadthesnip2 Tue 30-Jul-19 01:03:42

Well said @Janista.

You wont lose your home or your job & things will carry on just as before.

raskolnikova Tue 30-Jul-19 01:24:00

People could well still live and work in the EU, but the process will be more difficult, bureaucratic and expensive than it is now. And for what? What do UK citizens in the EU, or EU citizens in the UK, or UK citizens in the UK, have to gain from a no deal Brexit exactly?

Janista Tue 30-Jul-19 03:16:42

People act like no one travelled or worked abroad or managed before we were in the EU. It's laughable.

Stop moaning and catastrophising and live your life.

No one's opportunities are being spoilt.

The EU does not exist to help the individual.

Tullow2016 Tue 30-Jul-19 03:24:19

Both sides, leave and remain, have exaggerated their arguments. No deal is not the best outcome, but at same time I can't convince myself that millions will die in the process due to lack of; food, water, medications, etc. The UK was meant to plunge into recession just by voting to leave in 2016, but it never happened.

Likewise I can't convince myself that UK will be hugely better off. At present UK is 5th largest economy of the World (hard to believe, but that is the figure). Countries like; USA, China, Japan and soon India will always have bigger economies due to their populations. So even if UK can pass both France and German economy in future they would still be in 5th place in the World which is where we are now.

Even JRM has estimated that it will take 50 years. Imagine that many on MN will not be around then?

lovelyupnorth Tue 30-Jul-19 03:39:23

As leave cost my company over £100k per year I beg to differ.

bellinisurge Tue 30-Jul-19 06:07:08

Janista lives in Australia so none of this will directly affect them.

timeforakinderworld Tue 30-Jul-19 06:24:14

People act like no one travelled or worked abroad or managed before we were in the EU. It's laughable.
But we aren't going back to the 70s . The world is different now. It's not easy or often possible to move to another country to work. As someone who lives in Australia you should know that.

timeforakinderworld Tue 30-Jul-19 06:26:53

You wont lose your home or your job & things will carry on just as before.
But people will lose their jobs. This isn't even controversial. We know people will lose their jobs.

Bookworm4 Tue 30-Jul-19 06:28:29

Really people are ‘terrified’? I don’t think civilisation is coming to an end🙄

Peregrina Tue 30-Jul-19 06:29:51

Janista lives in Australia so none of this will directly affect them.

Always the way!

MammaBot211 Tue 30-Jul-19 06:30:54

Well what did you think was going yo happen? He is doing what May failed to do and honour the Referendum results.

TheBigBallOfOil Tue 30-Jul-19 06:37:56

Janista is not thinking this through. Yes, these things happened before we were in the EU. But then we joined, and spent 40 years building our arrangements on the basis of membership. So things changed and dependencies were introduced. That is the problem. We are not going to be magically transported to a position as if we’d never been members.

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