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Boris's Promises

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BackInTime Sun 28-Jul-19 09:55:05

Thought I would start a thread to keep track of what Boris Johnson has promised to see how likely it is that these things will actually be delivered. We know he has form for making false promises. The Cummings spin machine is in full swing playing on people's hopes and fears and telling people exactly what they want to hear. So far we have

£350 million a week for the NHS
To leave the EU on 31st of October or before
Tax cuts for high earners
20,000 more police officers by 2022
Fix the social care crisis
Increase school funding
Guaranteed rights for EU citizens
Points based immigration system
Manchester - Leeds High speed rail link

Feel free to add, I am pretty sure that there will be many more in the days and weeks ahead.

MockerstheFeManist Sun 28-Jul-19 10:10:11

water cannons
Garden Bridge

Caucasianchalkcircles Sun 28-Jul-19 10:18:14

Unfortunately I think many people will be taken in by these promises and polls today have indicated a bit of a boris bounce in support for the tories.
I saw a bbc report from the north east the other evening. Many of those interviewed were either longtime labour voters or had never voted at all but most wanted to leave and they seemed very impressed with him due to this 'can do' optimistic persona he's adopted. He'll unite former brexit party voters and tory leavers but also attract labour leavers taken in by all this promised spending which could have worrying impact on a GE.

bellinisurge Sun 28-Jul-19 11:50:10

Many many police officers. Just many.

BackInTime Sun 28-Jul-19 13:09:30

People are just so desperate for some positivity after 3 years of Brexit, it's easy to see why the Tories have had a surge in the polls.

RafaIsTheKingOfClay Sun 28-Jul-19 16:21:26

I was just thinking last night that we needed to start a thread for this.

Ensuring it doesn’t take 3 weeks to see a GP.
20 new hospital upgrades

Peregrina Sun 28-Jul-19 16:46:13

If he wants fully trained Police Officers to make up for the ones May cut, he has to find the money to start now.

BackInTime Sun 28-Jul-19 18:27:37

Plans to overhaul stamp duty and raise the threshold to £500k

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/property/uk/would-boris-johnsons-stamp-duty-plans-mean/amp/

Lifebi Sun 28-Jul-19 23:23:26

A £300m funding pot for communities in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland!
Bribing Boris and the magic money tree in full bloom.

Nothingcomesforfree Sun 28-Jul-19 23:32:18

How can anyone promise anything?
Just give an honest answer to what you’d try and do if circumstances permit.
If we leave without a deal it’s going to be politicians making up stuff as the go along for years As long as it’s fair and reasonablepoliciesv, does it matter? In fact the worse thing is to sign up to arrangements for years when things are likely to change quickly.

ineedaholidaynow Sun 28-Jul-19 23:38:22

I am a school governor, waiting with interest to see if he fulfils his promise of increasing school funding. However, being ever so slightly cynical I can see him increasing the funding per pupil, but taking some other sort of funding away, so schools won't actually be any better off.

Theworldisfullofgs Sun 28-Jul-19 23:58:32

School governor here too. Dont actually believe any of it. Per pupil funding here increased last year very very slightly but other funding was reduced including the lump sum amount. We were the worst funded area so no reserves left. No idea what to do anymore. Next year we have a massive hole.

Although I'm desperate, still don't believe it.

The80sweregreat Mon 29-Jul-19 01:31:20

It's an impressive vote winning list and people will vote for it because it looks the ' real deal'
Unfortunately it's also very pie in the sky.
As they would say if labour came up with it.

Peregrina Mon 29-Jul-19 07:03:56

I am not sure that people will vote for it. People have seen it all before. Maybe if they saw the money actually being spent? Johnson's words are cheap and everyone knows that.

FenellaMaxwell Mon 29-Jul-19 07:07:40

Surely the question is not which promises will he keep but ‘where does he think the money for them will come from?’

Crispmonster123 Mon 29-Jul-19 07:28:27

I’m liking them so far. I wasn’t impressed with Jeremy Corbyn bad mouthing the 20,000 officers when his 2017 pledge was for 10,000. He’s got a bit of a cheek with that.
I think we should give him a chance, I actually like him. I’m not a Tory btw. I’m a floating voter (except a Corbyn labour). If the pledges actually happen, I don’t see how people could bad mouth him. I may be naive though

cherin Mon 29-Jul-19 07:35:54

A promise without the small print is not really a promise....https://apple.news/A0tALBwkQQm24TFxyNMtJQA

Boris Johnson faces Tory backlash after new government says no plan for law to guarantee EU citizens’ rights after Brexit

He said he’d protect citizens rights, but he can’t pass legislation to prove it before we actually leave. And his idea of citizen right is the settled status scheme which we know has plenty of holes.

The silver lining? ALL of the EU parents I talk to in my kids school are doing the naturalisation procedure, which means thousands of £ to the home office but also a right to vote NOT for this government at the next chance...

lonelyplanetmum Mon 29-Jul-19 07:43:38

I think we should give him a chance, I actually like him

Boris Johnson? You like him? Why? Do you know about the following:

• Being sacked in 1988 for entirely making up a quote in a front-page story.
• four-year mistress Petronella Wyatt, which he denied and she had an abortion.
• helping his fraudulent mate Darius Guppy in his attempts to commit ABH or GBH on a journalist
•worsening the chances of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe getting a release from Iranian prison by making sloppy comments when Foreign Secretary in 2017.

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion ...but I'm interested in why these qualities mean he should be given a chance?

BackInTime Mon 29-Jul-19 08:56:21

I agree @lonelyplanetmum, while I would love to believe that these things will be delivered his track record does not fill me with confidence.

This is all a massive PR campaign for a GE. Mastermind Cummings is in full swing.

ssd Mon 29-Jul-19 09:03:07

lonely planet mum, you missed Crispmonster123s last comment... 'I may be niave though'....

silvercuckoo Mon 29-Jul-19 09:08:59

Amnesty for half a million undocumented immigrants. I know a couple of people who are prepared to pay up to £20K to finally legalise.

Peregrina Mon 29-Jul-19 09:11:24

Amnesty for half a million undocumented immigrants.

For me that would be a vote winner, although I have no intention of voting Tory. For many in the Tory and Brexit parties, that is a complete vote loser.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine Mon 29-Jul-19 09:15:32

I am watching John Oliver's Last Week Tonight on Boris Johnson. He nails it. He also mentions, along with the zip wire antics (that some say were orchestrated by BJ) the I make model bus bollocks as a way of changing google hits.
So I google Boris Johnson Bus. What do I get?
Boris Johnson's bollocks about inventing a bus/vowing to transform local buses and the bus-making bollocks. The lying Brexit Bus bullshit is off the front page now.
For the record Jeremy Vine annoys me (yes, you were on Strictly once, we get it) but his article here is very well written.
reaction.life/jeremy-vine-my-boris-story/
Boris will do Boris and shit to everyone else. Leaflets about how to deal with a no deal Brexit? Me and my family do indeed need to take cover.

silvercuckoo Mon 29-Jul-19 09:28:10

@Peregrina
In one Facebook group I'm in probably more than 50% of members are in the UK without proper paperwork. You'd think Boris is a saint by how he is referred to in there, people are actually including him in prayers. Here's another half a million loyal supporters.
And I think, if framed correctly, it could be a winner with Tory electorate as well. If there's a fee, say £10k - £20k to get a residence permit, people would pay, and the concept of "paying for their sins" would appeal to more conservative voters too.

Peregrina Mon 29-Jul-19 09:30:36

So I google Boris Johnson Bus. What do I get?
Boris Johnson's bollocks about inventing a bus/vowing to transform local buses and the bus-making bollocks.

I am not sure how it works, but if people keep searching for the Brexit bus, won't that bring it back up again?

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