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All threads in Brexit seem anti-Brexit...(part 2)

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HateIsNotGood · 21/07/2019 16:44

Following on from KJC's thread, I thought I'd create another space for these lively discussions as the last one seemed to be quite popular.

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bellinisurge · 21/07/2019 18:12

Trying very hard to bring my dh around to the idea of "let's put up with Leave as long as we avoid No Deal", with a bonus "Johnson and his cronies are going to crash and burn". He's playing Exploding Kittens with our daughter to chill out.

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HateIsNotGood · 21/07/2019 18:49

Bellini - after painting rotten windows I've been composing and sending ' let's think about creating an industry re-making the recyclables and create local jobs too' Letters to the Ed of our local rags.

I did run my composition by DS17 first as a finger in the wind/test the water and met with approval tho I don't need his approval or anyone else's.

I'd PMK with a Cat pic (but I don't have a cat at this mo in time) and any Dog pic - I'd be locally outed MN-wise.

I'm actually now off to do the MN Chicken although my GM taught me that well before the tinternet anyway. Always good to be prepared as that is something we can agree on.

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Oranginna · 21/07/2019 20:10

Thanks for starting a new thread Hateisnot.
I am looking forward to the cabinet announcements next week. Downing St will be a lot less gloomy when May and Hammond have flit. Anyone want to speculate on who the next chancellor will be? Westminstenders regulars don't need to come and pour scorn. We don't do it on your thread.

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jasjas1973 · 21/07/2019 20:18

If we don't contribute, you'll be lucky to make double figures lol!

ime of Cornish (& at work) leavers, they really don't care anymore.

Most remainers on the other hand still care very much.

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bellinisurge · 21/07/2019 20:27

Oranginna what you don't seem to get is: I'd love to be wrong. It would be brilliant. What about you?

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ListeningQuietly · 21/07/2019 20:34

I'd love to be convinced that Brexit will not be a shower of shit.
Still waiting for evidence and solid plans.

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HateIsNotGood · 21/07/2019 20:41

Tbh - can we be completely sure BJ will be next Tory Leader and by default next UK PM? Everything points to that he will but so much of the 'unexpected' has happened I'm keeping an open-mind about everything.

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jasjas1973 · 21/07/2019 20:51

Yes Hates apparently votes did not come flying in as expected, Con members taking their time to assess?

But it would be a huge upset if BJ didn't make it - what is certain though is that BJ will split the Tory party, we could be on the cusp of a major political shift away from the 2 main parties?

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ListeningQuietly · 21/07/2019 20:53

Brexit is all about the Rich fleecing the Poor
bylinetimes.com/2019/07/19/weve-been-misled-brexit-party-mp-hopefuls-left-out-in-the-cold

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Mistigri · 21/07/2019 21:05

Trying very hard to bring my dh around to the idea of "let's put up with Leave as long as we avoid No Deal",

Is he a leaver or a remainer?

Think it's hard to imagine meeting in the middle now; remainers smell blood.

(I mean that in a purely metaphorical way).

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bellinisurge · 21/07/2019 21:19

@Mistigri - a Remain voter. He is far more dismissive of Leave voters than I am.

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HateIsNotGood · 21/07/2019 21:46

Misti - is that "smelling blood" like Fee-fi-fo-fum I smell the blood of an Englishman? Or a more modern take of the situation?

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bellinisurge · 22/07/2019 08:38

I almost look forward to watching Johnson squirm. Either to explain why he's asking for an extension and not taking us out via No Deal on 31 October. Or stupidly trying to prorogue Parliament and failing. Or somehow managing some kind of No Deal and it all turning to shit.

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MockerstheFeManist · 22/07/2019 09:36

But we put a man on the moon.

Well, alright, we ddn't, but someone did, and it only took nine years and cost £100 billion in today's money, and we shall have £350 million a wek to pay for this and so no problem.

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CrunchyCarrot · 22/07/2019 10:02

I would gladly put Johnson on the moon.

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ContinuityError · 22/07/2019 10:56

Johnson is less Apollo 11 and more Mars Climate Orbiter.

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bellinisurge · 22/07/2019 11:21

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ireland-brexit-no-deal-aid-plan-protect-back-stop-border-ni-uk-a9015146.html?amp

I am not keen on putting links in posts but this does seem to suggest that the EU is standing by its members rather than kowtowing to British fantasy about how exceptional it is.

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DarlingNikita · 22/07/2019 16:48

I would gladly put Johnson on the moon.

There's an idea!

I do kind of hope he trots off to the Palace on Weds to see Brenda and gets told with infinite patience that he simply hasn't got enough warm bodies for her to allow him to form a government. They're dropping like flies.

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Songsofexperience · 22/07/2019 17:47

Brexit had 3 years to convince me it's a good idea. Failed.
I've always shown leavers respect but all decent people I know- from both sides- agree that when a government contemplates suicide as a policy, something's gone horribly wrong somewhere.

A turd is a turd is a turd.

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mummmy2017 · 22/07/2019 20:21

Just waiting to see what happens
Love how the cabinet are resigning like it is some big stand. When they would be gone by Wednesday anyway ....

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CrunchyCarrot · 22/07/2019 21:07

Johnson is less Apollo 11 and more Mars Climate Orbiter.

I laughed out loud at that, ContinuityError !

I'm a bundle of nerves waiting for tomorrow. Like waiting to go into the dentist for a root canal. That level of 'fun'.

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TheEmpireNoMore · 23/07/2019 02:21

Love how the cabinet are resigning like it is some big stand. When they would be gone by Wednesday anyway

Its like they have already seen the result. Assuming Johnson is the next PM it would make sense to have an all leave cabinet. 3 years of trying to please everyone has proved that it is never possible to please everyone.

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bellinisurge · 23/07/2019 06:15

Yes, why not pretend the referendum result was 100% for Leave, particularly in NI. That'll make it so much easier to steamroller us into No Deal.

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NoWordForFluffy · 23/07/2019 06:44

Its like they have already seen the result. Assuming Johnson is the next PM it would make sense to have an all leave cabinet. 3 years of trying to please everyone has proved that it is never possible to please everyone.

It's not just the Cabinet you have to convince though. And not one of those people in the suggested Cabinet would be able to convince parliament as a whole about how to leave. So it's still no better in terms of being able to progress ideas.

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UKvsTheWorld · 23/07/2019 08:14

From EU viewpoint there only one of three things that can happen on 31 October 2019;

Another extension is agreed

2 .Some form of WA is agreed

If 1 or 2 does not happen then it is out No Deal.

Can't see how the inability of UK Parliament to agree places obligations on the EU to extend forever?