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RedToothBrush Thu 18-Jul-19 16:04:23

Next week we will have a new PM. He will be called Boris Johnson unless something very odd has happened.

His first 72 hours will be 'interesting' especially if today's events are anything to go by.

His Cabinet is sure to be a horror show. It was noticable who abstained today - they don't think they will be in a Johnson Cabinet and clearly don't want to be.

To move forward Johnson must be able to survive a rebellion and a Queen's speech before now and 31st October.

And be able to unit his party in order to find a way forward.

And whilst parliament has voted to block proroguing parliament, it could still be dissolved if there is a vote of no confidence.

And what happens if Johnson loses a vote? Will he manage to become PM? Will there be a GE.

All the signs are that next week is going to be a hell of a ride.

Enjoy your weekend.

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bellinisurge Thu 18-Jul-19 16:45:50

@tobee , isn't there a sketch on Airplane in a similar theme? Although if memory serves it was cocaine not sugar.

DGRossetti Thu 18-Jul-19 16:51:43

I wonder how well this would have gone if the UK were not a member of the EU ?

The European Commission has issued American chip maker Qualcomm with a hefty €242m fine for anti-competitive practices.


DarlingNikita Thu 18-Jul-19 16:52:03

Thanks Red. I'm off on hols next Weds and can't decide whether or not away is the best place to be while the next round of ShitShow Britain plays out.

To an extent I can bury my head in the sand, if you'll excuse the sort-of-pun, but God only knows what I'll be coming back to...

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 16:55:20

Thanks, red 💐

Apologies to all;
I was monitoring the old thread and was scribbling a skeleton OP after post 980 when .....

all those portions of ripe fruit that were soooo delicious last night reminded me why scoffing that much of them was a BAD idea blush

After the poonami clearup, I had to return home for a shower and fresh clothes

@red Your 4-year-old probably has more sense blush

1tisILeClerc Thu 18-Jul-19 16:56:24

{But surely if they represent the commons they should contain nuts?}

No, they have no nuts as they can't be honest with the public and just say that Brexit is a clusterfuck., Or is that a nut cluster?

1tisILeClerc Thu 18-Jul-19 16:57:43

Oh pleeaase BCF!

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:00:49

Hunt's oops ... ?

Jeremy Hunt@Jeremy_Hunt

I missed votes today because I thought I was slipped and it turns out I was not.

Apologies to my colleagues & Whips

(^My position is that parliament should NOT restrict the hands of an incoming govt in this way & I remain opposed to how parl voted)^

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:02:09

We let it all out here, leclerc grin

The weaker sex must beware !

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:05:27

When was HoC "pairing" renamed to "slipping" ? hmm

nuttynutjob Thu 18-Jul-19 17:06:30


Bollocks to Boris!

CrunchyCarrot Thu 18-Jul-19 17:07:20

Thanks, Red flowers

Spot the real kitty. grin

DGRossetti Thu 18-Jul-19 17:08:17

When was HoC "pairing" renamed to "slipping" ?

Probably some clever wheeze to break "old news" and "new news" and confound Google (not that it takes much) ?

1tisILeClerc Thu 18-Jul-19 17:08:36

BCF, just NO!

Lisette1940 Thu 18-Jul-19 17:12:44

😄😂*Flouncy*. I'll add nuts into the next batch of Lower- house , preserving Toll-House as a name for choc chip only. Ta!

DarlingNikita Thu 18-Jul-19 17:13:43

I missed votes today because I thought I was slipped and it turns out I was not.

I don't believe him.

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:20:02

BBC Newsnight reported a deal - don't get excited ! - between the Port of Calais and the Channel ferry companies,
to avoid Calais becoming logjammed:

In the event of No Deal Brexit,
the companies would prevent Uk trucks from boarding ferries at Dover if they didn't have the correct paperwork^ that Calais would require to let through goods from a 3rd country^

Beware after ND of BJ and Brexit Central crowing that disruption hasn't happened:
blocking a lot of British exports is not a great achievement

btw, since 1 November is a Friday, we can expect many exporters / hauliers to hold back goods until Monday anyway,
so they can get to grips with whatever documentation is required and also the system of checking / filtering system at the UK end

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:25:21

In another interview for Panorama, the European commission’s vice-president, Frans Timmermans,
expressed amazement at the lack of preparedness of the UK negotiators when they arrived in Brussels for the first talks.

“We thought they are so brilliant,” he said in comments recorded in March.

“That in some vault somewhere in Westminster there will be a Harry Potter-like book with all the tricks and all the things in it to do.”

He said he changed his mind after seeing the then Brexit secretary David Davis. grin

Timmermans said:

“I saw him not coming, not negotiating, grandstanding elsewhere [and] I thought,
*‘Oh my God, they haven’t got a plan, they haven’t got a plan.* hmm

“That was really shocking, frankly, because the damage if you don’t have a plan …”

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:31:27

That link also has maybe the most sensible idea so far - comes from the EU side, of course:

Liddington reported that last year, Martin Selmayr asked him if the UK would like to pause A50 for 5 years
(so the UK has time to use both hands and a torch to finally locate its own arse)

“Martin sort of said,
‘Look, why don’t we have a deal whereby we just put all this on ice for five years?’

“Let’s see how things go, let’s get the UK involved with France and Germany, let’s see how the dust settles and let’s talk about whether we can come to a new deal for Europe.’”

Selmayr told Panorama that he was “very certain” the UK was not in a position to leave without a deal in March this year.
He said:
“We have seen what has been prepared on our side of the border for a hard Brexit.
We don’t see the same level of preparation on the other side of the border.”

“You would have to establish a lot of authorities in the United Kingdom that you don’t have at this moment in time
so I think the European Unionn^^ have been very well prepared for that – we could live with a hard Brexit.^

“We don’t think the same level of preparation is there on the UK side.”
< no kidding, mate >

NoWordForFluffy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:36:19

PMK, thanks Red.

I have no pets to post, so here's the frog (toad?) which lives in our strawberry patch in the garden!

BigChocFrenzy Thu 18-Jul-19 17:38:34

Gordon Brown: 'Boris Johnson could be UK's last prime minister

pretty and other Scottish Westministenders can maybe say if they agree with this assessment about BJ finally pissing off Scotland beyond the point of no return

I'm sure pretty will have a little fume over Brown's comments on the SNP - he had to have a go at them too and dilute the message / blame

tobee Thu 18-Jul-19 17:43:12

Yes indeed @bellinisurge

OublietteBravo Thu 18-Jul-19 17:50:14

Hello! PMK.

Hazardtired Thu 18-Jul-19 17:54:33

Ta red

ThereWillBeAdequateFood Thu 18-Jul-19 17:57:06


No cats I’m afraid, nice picture of a tree fern instead.

flouncyfanny Thu 18-Jul-19 18:02:33

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