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lonelyplanetmum Fri 19-Oct-18 07:12:07

Which chart encapsulates this nightmare for you?

This is the pie chart that I showed my FIL when he was repeating Farage’s drivel. The government’s own 2016 figures showed how statistically insignificant our EU budget percentage contribution always was.

lonelyplanetmum Wed 24-Oct-18 09:26:49

I hadn't seen that one *Misti -*it's the stuff of dystopian nightmares.

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lonelyplanetmum Thu 25-Oct-18 07:51:10

Just adding a link to Misti’s excellent National Audit Office report. It has good charts and is worth a read.Basically an official detailed warning of high risk that the border controls just can’t be ready for no deal due to their scale, complexity and urgency.

https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/The-UK-border-preparedness-for-EU-exit.pdf

lonelyplanetmum Thu 25-Oct-18 07:51:39

Sorry issues with MN!

lonelyplanetmum Thu 25-Oct-18 10:32:36

Wish our govt were as efficient as Mumsnet in resolving issues!

Chart for the day..

lonelyplanetmum Thu 25-Oct-18 10:33:42

Handy quick reference table from HSBC's economics team set out what separation from the EU means for trade etc.
Although looking increasingly likely it will be no deal of course.

lonelyplanetmum Fri 26-Oct-18 06:38:08

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lonelyplanetmum Fri 26-Oct-18 06:39:55

This shows that immigration does not increase unemployment. Another myth.

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse Fri 26-Oct-18 06:47:47

Great thread OP smile

lonelyplanetmum Fri 26-Oct-18 06:50:26

Thanks- feel free to add one!

lonelyplanetmum Sat 27-Oct-18 07:54:36

These are ‘why are we still doing this’ statistics. The previous charts are facts and data based.This recent survey is more about feelings.

83% think the process has been a mess.

73% now realise we need overseas staff to keep the NHS running.

73% think it likely the promises made by politicians to justify relinquishing membership are broken.

73% understand leaving will fundamentally negatively impact the lives of everyone.

64% of people think we will get a bad deal.

63% realise they were misled about the consequences of Brexit before the
referendum

( Based on sample of 10,000 people.)

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulusuploads/document/4e1ciqwvua/Copy%20of%20PV%20results%20180807%20day%20onee_w.pdf

1tisILeClerc Sat 27-Oct-18 08:28:15

Thank you Lonelyplanet
'A chart a day keeps the trolls at bay'.

lonelyplanetmum Sat 27-Oct-18 08:52:21

With your encouragement LeClerc this is not a chart, but an extract of a useful list too.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTIPx0lI6pb-3Tn-3D6uNJNyKcCd-A8uPMxViagyJAR9T87ZmnSdAEPCzp5ljlNYoUNdxJiJqQdBm7b/pubhtml

chocolateworshipper Sat 27-Oct-18 23:04:03

Not a chart, but a link showing how behind DEFRA are. You'll excuse me whilst I snigger about who's in charge of DEFRA ...

www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/12/defras_it_systems_planned_for_brexit_and_not_beyond/?fbclid=IwAR3_kJaFee5XlMUd7G6obt6rCigyn1sEL-mLYCtsfK7-7U0TNB11M5szfis

lonelyplanetmum Sun 28-Oct-18 07:09:52

Thanks Chocolate . Interesting that just installing the IT system in one government department is £32.8m in 2017-2019 . The ongoing annual operational costs not yet addressed at all.Sigh.

Gove’s only tangible example of the benefit of leaving was exporting pig’s ears to China (which we could have done anyway).I doubt that is worth £32 million.

1tisILeClerc Sun 28-Oct-18 07:52:04

Making a 'pigs ear' of things seems to be the governments forte!
Charts, tables, interpretation through dance, anything is good around here! I think it gets extra points if it includes a cute kitten picture however.
The DEFRA computer system needs to up and running (and funded of course) for when the EU subsidies to farmers stop, as well as tracking all animal movements etc of course.

chocolateworshipper Sun 28-Oct-18 09:21:18

Department for Transport expected to spend £96million on Brexit (p13)

www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Implementing-the-UKs-Exit-from-the-European-Union.pdf

lonelyplanetmum Mon 29-Oct-18 08:19:57

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lonelyplanetmum Mon 29-Oct-18 08:20:44

Excellent charts prepared by Oxford Uni researchers show the expected accumulated lost of GDP and impact on young people and the future. It compares a WTO-type deal (which has the most negative impact) and an EEA-type deal (which would have the least impact). This reflects the government's own figures too.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ofoc/pages/167/attachments/original/1540483927/REPORT-latest.pdf?1540483927

lonelyplanetmum Mon 29-Oct-18 08:21:59

Chocolate’s post prompted me about a classic chart that is missing so far.

This is the Institute of government’s summary of what the Gov., businesses and individuals need to do to prepare for no deal.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/charts/what-government-needs-do-prepare-no-deal-brexit

Huge work still to prepare for no deal and insufficient time now. . The government’s own notices suggest many U.K. businesses should establish presence in the rest of the EU to continue to serve that market. Incredible. Will affect all sectors from car manufacturing to financial services to biscuits.

lonelyplanetmum Mon 29-Oct-18 08:23:08

A classic from

https://www.myeu.uk/#/

chocolateworshipper Mon 29-Oct-18 19:29:59

Panic over - we're getting a special 50 pence coin. I don't know about you, but that's completely changed my opinion of Brexit ...

lonelyplanetmum Tue 30-Oct-18 07:01:13

This is not a chart on an aspect of the current economic negative impact but an interactive image about the past. It is useful to put extreme Leave supporters arguments in context. The Leave Facebook pages seem to regularly say that the EU owes us some kind of special treatment as we unilaterally made the greatest sacrifice in WWII.This supplies a more accurate context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cgRwDkP6vk&vl=en-GB

lonelyplanetmum Tue 30-Oct-18 18:32:44

Another classic to add to the collection. The will of the people?

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