My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

Brexit

Westministenders: Groundhog Day

994 replies

RedToothBrush · 14/02/2018 16:20

Groundhog day is 2nd Feb.

Its also today. And yesterday. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before.

We have all turned into Bill Murray.

That's Brexit in the UK.

The only progress seems to be linguistic gymnastics not policy.

No action has been implemented, we are still on words going nowhere.

Tick tock, tick tock.

OP posts:
MichaelBendfaster · 14/02/2018 16:31

Thanks Red! Placemat King.

DGRossetti · 14/02/2018 16:36

.

mrsreynolds · 14/02/2018 16:37

Thanks red ❤

Placemat king

DGRossetti · 14/02/2018 16:39

DUP has just ruled out power sharing.

TheElementsSong · 14/02/2018 16:45

Thanks RTB - Groundhog Day indeed!

lalalonglegs · 14/02/2018 16:47

It sounds as if Arlene has unilaterally declared that there will be no power sharin which suits her just fine so what happens now? Direct rule from WM or (yet more bloody) elections for the N Irish? (And what's happening about the inquiry into the Cash for Ash scandal which she was up to her eyes in?)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 14/02/2018 16:50

Thanks red!

Reassures indeed Hmm


Financial Times
@FT
Video: Boris Johnson reassures voters over Brexit

Dobby1sAFreeElf · 14/02/2018 16:50

I was going to placemarking but I'll just say thanks and for fucks sake Arlene you twat.

TheArtOfNoise · 14/02/2018 16:52

Thanks red Brew

BigChocFrenzy · 14/02/2018 16:58

Thanks, red Thanks

That's depressing, DG but the DUP always opposed the GFA and never wanted power-sharing in the first place

  • the familiar "we won, get over it" triumphalism, over a minority that won nearly as many votes as they did


So, does their bung include being allowed to piss over the GFA and the minority ?

Once SF overtakes them and becomes the largest party, I expect the DUP to have a hissy fit
Those supporters, who consider the future, post online that then the border would have to be redrawn, so they can always be top dog in an ever smaller country.

I've plenty of time to surf and find these nuts:
now had 2 weeks on crutches at home after my stupid stairs pratfall, several more weeks to go Angry
Sorry if I'm grumpy atm, but I'm very frustrated on one leg; it's ruined a lot of plans I had.
Peregrina · 14/02/2018 17:01

I can't help but think that in the normal course of events, TM would just put the customs barrier on the Welsh and Scottish west coasts and tell NI to get lost. But whoops, her botched election put paid to that. Why am I not upset for her?

I do genuinely worry about the GFA breaking down and if the NI situation kills off Brexit, I will be delighted.

Globetrotter100 · 14/02/2018 17:03

Thanks Red

Violetparis · 14/02/2018 17:05

Thanks Red and all the other regular contributors, I've learned so much from these threads.

CardinalSin · 14/02/2018 17:05

Didn't have time to catch up on the last thread, but just saw this;

BoJo joking about British sex tourism

The gift that keeps on giving...

Violetparis · 14/02/2018 17:09

learnt not learned !

mathanxiety · 14/02/2018 17:26

And this is why it is impossible to have the WM government for all intents and purposes dependent on the DUP for its existence. TM has no leverage at all in NI to make the DUP stick to the GFA and do what they promised the people of NI (not just their supporters) they would do.

Maybe this is the time for SF to announce they will take the loathsome oath with fingers crossed behind their backs, and bring down the government.

The GFA is dead.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/02/2018 17:29

Best analysis is from the RoI and an Irish economist, as usual:

(paywall) Conservative civil warriors cannot beat Brexit clock

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/colm-mccarthy/conservative-civil-warriors-cannot-beat-brexit-clock-36590398.html

The UK government must either agree to the EU's preconditions or face catastrophic no-deal

The worst-case scenario for summer 2019 includes beach holidays in the Outer Hebrides and punnets of parsnips at Wimbledon < joy >

Any failure to achieve both a hard Brexit and frictionless access to European markets is the fault of Johnny Foreigner.

There is a continuing refusal to choose from the broad menu on offer from the EU, a menu constrained only by the treaties of which the UK is a signatory.

One could imagine from the tone of some of the UK media coverage that Britain has not resigned from the EU but has been unfairly expelled.

General Melchett, in Blackadder:

"If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through." 🤦🏻‍♀️

QuentinSummers · 14/02/2018 18:06
Brew
BiglyBadgers · 14/02/2018 18:08

Place mat king!

prettybird · 14/02/2018 18:12

Repeating my post from the end of the last thread in order to Place Mat King.

Dh and I were talking about Zuma and pondering how people become so delusional that they can't recognise the writing on the wall and don't realise that they have lost all power and credibility.

I was hypothesising that because of the way power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, they do genuinely lose all sense of perceptive and self-awareness.

That conversation came back to mind when I listened to BoJo say "I don't wish to contradict you [in response to someone who quoted him as describing Labour on Brexit as "supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies"] but I think I've always been moderate, loving and caring in my language" HmmConfusedAngry

So many lies let's not beat about the bush and misleading statements in what he spouted said.....it's tiresome to have to continue to point them out (like not having a democratic say in new EU regulations that we might have to abide by, when we are the ones choosing to withdraw from the democratic process Confused)

BigChocFrenzy · 14/02/2018 18:17

UK govt politicians are still spouting rhetoric and delusion, fact-free
Opposition politicians and Tory Remainers are keeping pretty quiet

With such clueless, cowardly politicians on all sides, the Brexit clock may simply wind down into a default WTO Brexit, that no one planned

Another possibility is that Bojo takes power and does yet another U-turn
He so obviously never believes the rubbish he's been inventing about the EU for the last 20 years
He'd have no struggle compromising his principles, since he has none
He could convince enough people to accept EEA / EFTA, or if transition is renewed a few years, to sneak back into the EU, blaming May

DGRossetti · 14/02/2018 18:24

Another possibility is that Bojo takes power and does yet another U-turn

Oh yes ... Brexit is an equal ops shaftfest. brexiteers are just at risk as remainers ...

Don’t want to miss threads like this?

Weekly

Sign up to our weekly round up and get all the best threads sent straight to your inbox!

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

mrsreynolds · 14/02/2018 18:31

Oh dear

A poor lad from labour membership just phoned

I told him - in no uncertain terms - why I am no longer a labour member

He was spluttering quite a bit 😁

twofingerstoEverything · 14/02/2018 18:45

Thanks, Red, and all the other regular posters. I do appreciate these WM threads.

HesterThrale · 14/02/2018 18:48

Where can you start with Boris' speech? For a speech that was supposed to pour oil on troubled waters, he said so much that will offend. He just doesn't have the diplomatic art of thinking something but choosing not to say it. I'm sure proud EU nations will be happy to hear that their languages are in 'decline'. Not.

He also says If we get the right deal. Reckon he's got serious doubts about that.

“If we get the right deal on aviation and on visa-free travel – both of which are in our mutual interest – this expansion of UK tourism will continue, not just beyond the EU, but within the EU itself; and we will continue ever more intensively to go on cheapo flights to stag parties in ancient cities, meet interesting people, fall in love, struggle amiably to learn the European languages whose decline has been a paradoxical feature of EU membership.”

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-speech-thailand-british-sex-tourism-joke-foreign-secretary-a8210101.html?

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.