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Has anybody changed their mind about how they voted?

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fakenamefornow Thu 07-Sep-17 09:07:36

It seems not many people have?

MsHooliesCardigan Thu 07-Sep-17 09:26:36

My parents are the only people I know IRL who voted for Brexit (or the only ones that admit to it) and they have both changed their minds and are pretty angry about the mess that Brexit is turning into.

Peregrina Thu 07-Sep-17 09:27:32

No. Given the stupid way that May and her talentless crew are going about it, I am even more determined to do what I can to oppose her idea of Brexit.

I would have been less annoyed if there had been a genuinely overwhelming vote to Leave and that the Leavers in Parliament had done the necessary spadework to tell us exactly what could be put in place instead.

Bearbehind Thu 07-Sep-17 09:32:58

I can't imagine that any Remainers will have changed their mind given the complete lack of plans and progress and no Leavers would admit on here to changing their mind even if they have.

Imonlyfuckinghuman Thu 07-Sep-17 09:41:36

No. Not while Juncker and Barnier are still running the show. Still for the life of me can't see why British people want these old power hungry mad men who don't even live here deciding our fate - at least we can vote our old mad men/women out. It's these guys that are making Brexit a slow progress.

WorldWideWanderer Thu 07-Sep-17 09:44:05

I voted to leave. I knew full well the many consequences of my vote and I knew it would be a long, drawn out process which, initially, may cause some hardship but (I believe) will be better for eveyone in the end.
I haven't changed my mind at all, and still believe we'd be better out. I wish the politicians would get on with it though; and I am shocked at the various delaying tactics that different factions have thrown in the way of progress on this front. Seems the will of a great number of people is still not being listened to....
However, I am a much older voter and remember the days (in my youth) when we went into the EU so I can compare....I didn't want to join then and I, like many of my generation, still want out.
I do accept that others see this differently....

ChilliMum Thu 07-Sep-17 09:46:07

No. I voted remain but after the vote I was prepared to accept it .

I thought that the vote had exposed how divided we were as a country. I worked previously in community development in an area of high ecomonic and social deprivation with a large and not well integrated (none eu) immigrant population (I worked with both communities) and so the vote did not particlary come as a shock.

I felt that it was an opportunity to officially recognise and to explore these divisions with a view to opening dialogue, exploring the expectations of communities and promoting a fairer country (in or out of the eu).

Obviously we are heading in the opposite direction. There has been to the best of my knowledge no dialogue or research into what people wanted or hoped for when they voted. It seems we have just 1 womans view to represent us all. Our PM is full of soundbites and no substance in her belief the country is pulling together behind brexit. Nothing is being done to explore division and address the reasons behind the vote.

We are heading towards economic uncertainty which will undoubtedly be felt more by the communities at the bottom end of our social and economic spectrum and I can only see hatred and division growing.

Honestly, I am even more angry now and while I haven't changed my mind about the way I voted I have certainly changed my mind about accepting it.

TheElementsSong Thu 07-Sep-17 09:49:27

This thread is going to go well grin

Ttbb Thu 07-Sep-17 09:50:58

No. I voted to leave. My hopes weren't particularly high regards to how it would be handled so so far all is as expected. I am a bit annoyed though that May and her government seem to have completely failed to engage with the rest of the EU on the topic. While I appreciate that the other countries have closed ranks and the higher ups are not keen it feels that they should be putting in a bit more effort. It is like a repeat of the election campaign, or lack thereof, all over again. How much longer are they going to leave it?

YoungGirlGrowingOld Thu 07-Sep-17 09:51:12

I voted remain, but I have been so appalled at the Remain camp dismissing all leavers as pig-ignorant, racist and stupid that I would actually vote leave this time. DH is non-white and Muslim and a Brexiteer (and has a PhD) so we find all the middle class hand-wringing about the voting patterns of the poor lobotomised plebeians quite hilarious.

Also, Juncker is a twat.

Peregrina Thu 07-Sep-17 09:54:55

What 'delaying tactics'? The last Parliament voted through the Brexit legislation with hardly a murmur. Davis has been shown to be ill prepared at meetings - who has stopped him doing the necessary work?

I too am an older voter and remember what things were like before the EEC.

Soci Thu 07-Sep-17 13:27:47

I think YoungGirl unwittingly explains how no doubt many people use their vote: not to improve their lot, or the country but as an emotional response to a potential slight.

ElChan03 Thu 07-Sep-17 13:36:27

Voted remain. Stand by my opinion. Will hold my breath to see what happens although worried climbing back into a President of America's pocket will cause nothing but trouble. UK does not have the infrastructure to trade independently any more, not exactly sure how we will hold our own. I also work in a job where 80 pc of staff are eu or foreign staff as UK nationals do not apply for these jobs and as a result there is a national shortage. Leaving eu limits our workforce further so I don't know what will happen. Meanwhile the price of a loaf will probably hit 4 quid and I'm sure everyone will love that.

Imonlyfuckinghuman Thu 07-Sep-17 14:06:02

I think soci proves youngirls point very well grin

YoungGirlGrowingOld Thu 07-Sep-17 15:14:55

grin

Bolshybookworm Thu 07-Sep-17 16:56:06

Not sure what your husbands religion has to do with it, Soci. My friends parents are Hindu and voted leave because they don't like polish people. She thinks they acted like twats and definitely wouldn't change her own remain vote!

Toffeelatteplease Thu 07-Sep-17 17:00:13

Nope

Still for the life of me can't see why British people want these old power hungry mad men who don't even live here deciding our fate - at least we can vote our old mad men/women out

This 100%. Their bullying over Brexit has just confirmed the point

fakenamefornow Thu 07-Sep-17 17:25:15

I voted Remain, would absolutely vote the same again.

It seems to me Brexit is going exactly as predicted, it's awful, the pound is on the floor, the country seems more divided than ever, and there's no solution to keeping the peace in NI. It puzzles me that against this background Leavers are still all for it. I'm a passionate Remainer though and I wonder how much my own view is colouring how I see things and that in fact there's lots of good news that I just don't pick up on. My own situation is badly affected by Brexit as well, I'm loosing my job because of it and my children had planned to go to university in the EU to avoid high UK fees, they're very sad that this probably won't be possible now, so me and my family are suffering real concrete damage, I'm sure this must colour my view as well. Also I admit I do have a very low opinion of people who voted Leave because most people I know who vote Leave did so entirely for racist reasons. I know this isn't true of all Leavers but this is the world I live in and the racist rants I listen to. I now none of us are objective about this, maybe that's why so few people (including me) have changed their mind?

fakenamefornow Thu 07-Sep-17 17:27:29

Oh, my mum (racist Leaver) would still vote Leave ever though she can see the damage it's doing to her own family. She just wants Polish people to be sent home.

Bearbehind Thu 07-Sep-17 19:37:09

I think soci proves youngirls point very well

I think that people need to look a little closer at the implications of their choices rather than thinking it's about 'feelingz' '

Is there even one single, economically sound reason for Leaving?

As far as I can see we're trying to replicate what we've already got, which isn't even going to be allowed to happen.

What is the point?

Bearbehind Thu 07-Sep-17 19:38:03

Sorry, replicate what we've got, with fewer immigrants.

DrDreReturns Thu 07-Sep-17 19:42:30

I voted remain and I would again. However I think the result would be the same if there was another referendum. It will be a generation before rejoining will be a realistic proposal imo.

NotCitrus Thu 07-Sep-17 19:46:03

Still for the life of me can't see why British people want these old power hungry mad men who don't even live here deciding our fate - at least we can vote our old mad men/women out

We vote for MEPs, or could do even if only 20% of people bothered doing so. Our elected government appoint people to the Council of Ministers. Both groups and national governments tell the Commission what to consider making proposals on, which then have to be agreed by said MEPs.

In the UK one of our two houses is totally unelected and includes 16 CofE bishops, and you're saying that's more democratic?

MaryWortleyMontagu Thu 07-Sep-17 19:48:51

I personally don't think that many people have changed their minds and if there was a referendum again the result would be again a win for leave. I voted remain and whilst I accept that we lost and we have to leave, but I do not feel that the way this government is going about the process takes any account of the fact that the win was a very narrow win and that nearly half the people who voted didn't vote for this.

On a personal level, despite accepting the result, I feel very angry that as a loyal European citizen my citizenship will be stripped away from me and that I will lose rights that I've always held dear.

Violetparis Thu 07-Sep-17 19:52:33

Would still vote Remain, and everyone whose vote I know of either Remain or Leave would still vote the same way. I think if there was a second referendum Leave would win again.

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