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RedToothBrush Sat 22-Apr-17 12:19:24

In this edition of Westministers we play a game of ‘Where are they now?’

In June 2016 our screens were subjected to the sight of a number of particularly vocal MPs who participated in debates and stood on soap boxes to talk about the referendum.

The most noticeable of these for Leave were perhaps Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Gisela Stuart, Nigel Farage, Priti Patel and Kate Hoey. For Remain it was David Cameron, George Osborne, Jeremy Corbyn, Ruth Davidson, Sadiq Khan, Nicola Sturgeon, Nick Clegg and Tim Farron.

It is starting to seem that anyone involved in campaigning either for or against Brexit in June 2016 has faced an epic battle for survival. Just how long can they last before being defeated or conceding defeat.

David Cameron’s scalp was the first to go, as he swanned off leaving everyone to clear up his mess.

Boris Johnson, who was keen to stamp his mark and pitch for the leadership by stitching up Cameron, got stitched up by Michael Gove who also lost his own bid for leadership as a result.

Johnson, of course, still lives to fight another day by getting a nice job as Theresa’s whipping boy. He’s occasionally let out by himself, but its Michael Fallon who does the ‘Grown Up Business’. He was said to be one of the last to support an early election. I can’t think why that might be.

Poor old Gove is now confined to a straight-jacket, the back benches where he’s been told to think about what he’s done like a naughty school child and a column in the Times

Andrea Leadsom was sent to a field of cows never to be seen again except to pop up for the odd cameo line shouting about ‘Jam’.

Queen Theresa also dealt with the other Conservative Leader Leave Candidate Mr Liam Fox, by shipping him off to every dodgy corner of the global to get pampered by state hostility.

Stephen Crabb simply crawled back under his rock.

The announcement of the General Election seems to be like the major soap incident episode where half the cast get killed off by a totally unrealistic disaster because their acting contracts weren’t being renewed.

The quitters and abdicators who now have legged it at the sight of a General Election are Gisela ‘Champion of the Brexit Bus’ Stuart and Nigel ‘Too chicken to be defeated for an eighth time and risk losing my nice EU pension’ Farage. George Osborne took the advice of his school teachers and had another career to fall back on when he didn’t become successful in his first choice.

Its rather starting to look like the curse of being a leading Brexiteer is to be made to disappear off the face of the earth or fuck off when the going gets tough. Have you seen Priti Patel lately? Does she even still exist? And Chris Grayling? He was convinced he was going to get chancellor when he supported May in her bid for the leadership.
Instead he got packed off transport and disappeared off the face of the earth much to the annoyance of everyone caught up in the rail strikes.

The only one who is remotely visible seems to be David Davis and is like May’s pet poodle who just tries to please his owner.

It’s almost like the only one still standing or hasn’t been banished is Kate Hoey. And the Lib Dems are trying to work on that one and make her sink beneath the waves, on board her Alan Partridge Titanic once and for all.

Conversely the visible Remainers seem to be – on the face of it - fairing rather better at the moment.

Sadiq Khan is hugely popular and actually does his job rather than fannying about on zip wires. Ruth Davidson is also well respected and apparently has saved Priti Patel’s job from abolition. If the rumours are to be believed bored with scrapping with Nicola, she might be lining herself up for ‘Big Things’ in Westminister. Cameron’s one time love interest, Nick Clegg hasn’t shaken the tarnish of the coalition but he is enjoying a new reputation as the Brexit Soothsayer and some people actually know who Tim Farron is now, which is progress. Nicola Sturgeon is of course riding high and seems to be a permanent thorn in Theresa’s side.

Jeremy ‘I’m a Remainer, honest comrades’ Corbyn is the one who seems to be something of a walking disaster area yet is also thriving with it like a zombie who just keeps going regardless of what you throw at him.

And then of course there is Queen Theresa. The Remainer. Who has crushed everyone in her party. Not just the saboteurs. Even her supposed ally Hammond and BBF Rudd have been thrown under the bus at her wimb when its suited May personally.

The General Election now sets a new scene and opportunity for new characters to emerge. Now the rats have left the ship or been put in their place.

Will May set course to the left or to the right or simply plow on like a bull in a china shop?

Anyway I’m now looking forward to the shocking soap opera moment where your favourite hero or villain gets killed off in a twist you didn’t see coming. Role on June 8th. If only to get pass the upcoming horror of the next six weeks.

HashiAsLarry Sat 22-Apr-17 12:23:44

thanks rtb
off out myself so shall read later

woman12345 Sat 22-Apr-17 12:24:26

Anyway I’m now looking forward to the shocking soap opera
And the lovely thread, thanks again RedToothBrush my how we'll laugh at these times in years to come. Hopefully. flowers

MangoSplit Sat 22-Apr-17 12:24:32

Place marking

ShiningArmour Sat 22-Apr-17 12:30:22

Place marking, thanks rtb brew

Peregrina Sat 22-Apr-17 12:47:21

Which option for May? Blundering on like a bull in a china shop - old habits die hard.

Did Queen Theresa mention N Ireland in her election homily? I was out for the day, so missed much of the excitement.

BestIsWest Sat 22-Apr-17 12:49:38

Still pretending this isn't happening but marking place anyway. I started to have sleepless nights over Brexit and fear the same happening again.

BiglyBadgers Sat 22-Apr-17 12:56:41

Nice new thread red grin

Surely the tories scrapping the tax lock isn't a surprise to anyone...

Tory tax row: David Cameron’s policy chief says Theresa May will scrap ‘tax lock’ pledge

Peregrina Sat 22-Apr-17 13:00:54

Scrapping the tax lock - will it annoy sufficient pensioners? I can't say, I am one, but I never vote Tory.

WifeofDarth Sat 22-Apr-17 13:04:46

Thanks again Red, and all the regular posters star

BiglyBadgers Sat 22-Apr-17 13:06:58

And it is all over Twitter now that May has failed to rule out tax rises despite being asked 3 times. As i said, I am not surprised at all that they will raise taxes, but it will piss off a proportion of Conservatives.

BiglyBadgers Sat 22-Apr-17 13:12:34

Thinking about it this also means they can no longer attack labour as the party that will raise taxes. In fact if labour go with a policy of raising taxes just for those earning over £70000 this could place them in a position to argue they except the difficult financial situation that will come with brexit, but have a policy that places this burden on the most well off, whereas the Tories will screw us all. Of course that is assuming that labour are currently capable of coherently arguing the sky is blue so possibly beyond them right now hmm

Peregrina Sat 22-Apr-17 13:18:17

We underestimate the power of the Heil, Excess and Scum to spin, as far as tax rises go. But the Scum wasn't too pleased this morning about them.

Badders123 Sat 22-Apr-17 13:18:35


BiglyBadgers Sat 22-Apr-17 13:26:39

Reasons to be cheerful 1, 2, 3, 4...

Douglas Carswell might lose - and 9 other reasons to feel good about the early general election

I shall now leave you all in peace and go enjoy some sunshine before the nuclear winter kicks off. grin

RebelAllianceUK Sat 22-Apr-17 13:28:20

May the force be with us and not with May grin

ClashCityRocker Sat 22-Apr-17 13:29:22

A masterful summary as always red.

Although I am no way as savvy as many posters on here, these threads are so invaluable.

So far we've only had lib dems leafleting round here.

Is it wrong to hope that Theresa May gets filmed drop kicking a kitten or something?

BigChocFrenzy Sat 22-Apr-17 13:30:29

Thanks red

Apparently even the Scottish UKIP leader came out against the Family Cap and the rape clause.
So Scottish Cons are now the only party there supporting this.

Is Ruth Davidson harder-hearted than UKIP hmm
Or more ambitious ?

Has she been promised a safe English seat at the next GE - to put her in the running to be the next Tory leader, or more likely the one after that ?

All these mtgs and close consultations with May has to help her career and there's no real prizes beckoning for her in Scotland.

CopperRose Sat 22-Apr-17 13:34:49


BigChocFrenzy Sat 22-Apr-17 13:34:54

I think May wants as few commitments as possible in her manifesto.
To avoid embarrassing U-turns as with Hammond and NI

Brexit will require painful choices, so she doesn't want to be tied down to anything
"Vote me a blank cheque"

taytopotato Sat 22-Apr-17 13:43:39

Biggest consumer drops since 2010.
we are in for a bumpy ride

Govt unprepared for the car crash coming on Personal contract hires

Peregrina Sat 22-Apr-17 13:51:25

I think I know what the Tory party manifesto is:

Yes, a blank sheet of paper.

ShiningArmour Sat 22-Apr-17 13:57:42

Interesting links tayto

SapphireStrange Sat 22-Apr-17 13:59:38

Marking place. Thanks Red.

unicornsIlovethem Sat 22-Apr-17 14:05:20

Place mark - thanks Red

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