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So the good times are about to roll....are they?

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herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 11:53:34

I wanted to ask on another thread, but they are all bunfight-y.

I am a remainer so I feel very depressed about today. I would like some reassurance from brexiters about what I have to look forwards to.

I'm afraid 'taking back control' isn't clear enough to me, so an explanation of what will be different if that's the theme you will go for.

So far, since the vote, my family has lost £10,000s and my husband's current job/role has been placed in jeopardy. I have probably lost the ability to automatically continue to work in an EU country in under 2 years time (I currently live in Germany, though this was intended to be temporary). I have dear friends relocating out of London since the banks are shifting jobs due to Brexit so I'm not sure who I would be moving back to. My house is worth less and I'm less likely to be able to sell it if I do want to move. I'll need to get the kids Irish passports if I want them to benefit from the EU.

So cheer me up - we're set for a brighter future aren't we? What can I look forwards to?

squishysquirmy Wed 29-Mar-17 11:59:17

Well, at least we know those who fought for it will stick around if things get tough:
uk.businessinsider.com/nigel-farage-will-leave-britain-if-brexit-is-a-disaster-2017-3
One less twat if things do go wrong: A silver lining perhaps?

Reow Wed 29-Mar-17 12:05:37

I too would love to hear leavers opinions on what positive things they believe will come of Brexit.

I'm still confused about why anyone would want to leave unless they are racist, bigoted, ignorant, or gullible.

FourToTheFloor Wed 29-Mar-17 12:09:32

sorry no can do. I don't think it's going to be a brighter future in the short term. I think it's going to get rather miserable (think late 70s early 80s Britain) but maybe just maybe it will be OK in the long term.

I'm so annoyed I didn't move my money on the 23rd June last year like lots of my immigrant friends did. Most of our savings is in pounds which depresses the fuck out of me but we've got some in Aussie dollars and I'm thinking to move some to Euro.

Do you mean your house in the UK or Germany will be worth less?

GretchenFranklin Wed 29-Mar-17 12:09:48

I can't wait. The Brexiters keep saying how lovely it's all going to be so now I'm like totally stoked. Who needs details?

herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 12:14:52

Thanks to those that have replied so far. Given my emotions about today it would be very easy to start banding about insults but I really, really, want to hear something good.

Getting rid of Farage is kind of one, though he's such a lazy twat he couldn't wait to leave once he saw there might be an actual job to do. He's much rather preen in from of the camera and give soundbites than do an actual job.

23positionsina1nightstand Wed 29-Mar-17 12:18:56

I'd love to hear too. They're so dogmatic and defensive that I'd love find out what they're actually optimistic about. Just soundbites and growling that I've heard so far.

I'm sad today.

herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 12:23:35

My London house. We were in the midst of a relocation on 23 June so I know what the valuations and market were like before and since.

My husband and I are both being paid in £ but spending Euros... we've effectively had a 25% pay cut since June. The package we settled before the vote.Like I say, it has cost us a lot in real terms already. I almost daren't look any further forwards.

winekeepsmesane Wed 29-Mar-17 12:35:16

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Greatwhiteworld Wed 29-Mar-17 12:42:25

I think 20-30 years down the road the Britain will be doing much better than it is now in a economic sense.

However the next 20 years are going to make the Great Depression seem like a walk in a park.

A big concern is the tanking British economy, Trump and the rise of the far right in Europe it won't be long until war breaks out.

southall Wed 29-Mar-17 12:47:36

Of course there are going to be winners and losers from Brexit.

EU membership benefited the rich and well off.

Lower incomes not so much or not at all and sometime even negatively with wage compression and pressure on school places and other public services.

I cant offer any good news to you, you will be financially worse off for at least the next 10 years.

herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 12:50:16

How will those on lower incomes end up with more money in their pockets southall?

Lower tax receipts and an economy likely to go into recession. Plus the ending of EU grants in 2 years time and any amount needed to 'settle up' with the EU.

Haven't the Tories already proposed us having the lowest corporation tax in the western world? How is that going to benefit the old, the sick, those in state education?

TheElementsSong Wed 29-Mar-17 12:50:19

I'm given to understand we shall we benefitting from incandescent lightbulbs and overpowered toasters and vacuum cleaners. It's a revelation to me that my fellow citizens have been sitting in the dark, eating raw toast grin and paddling ankle-deep in dust for 40-odd years.

herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 12:52:08

Why shouldn't 'the rich and the well off' take their money, taxes and spending power and move out of the UK (believe me, some already are). That's not going to do a whole lot of good for the economy either, is it?

herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 12:55:10

I think 20-30 years down the road the Britain will be doing much better than it is now in a economic sense.

I will be retired then. After decades of shit economy will do nothing for my savings and pension.

Is there any point in the likes of my family staying in the UK? We have only ever made a net contribution economically (DH and I are 40).

CardinalSin Wed 29-Mar-17 13:06:30

"I think 20-30 years down the road the Britain will be doing much better than it is now in a economic sense."

You see, I hear this bandied about a lot, but why? On what are you basing this prophecy? That fact that we'll be able to sell more arms to Middle Eastern countries?

herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 13:06:45

TheElement I'm desperately trying to keep this serious and respectful but don't forget we'll also all be eating the bendiest bananas you ever did see. ;)

TheElementsSong Wed 29-Mar-17 13:14:04

Oh yes! How could I forget, we'll have the freedom to pack bananas less efficiently in boxes! 🍌

southall Wed 29-Mar-17 13:14:35

Is there any point in the likes of my family staying in the UK?

If it makes much more sense for you to uproot and move then do it.

You would be stupid not too.

noblegiraffe Wed 29-Mar-17 13:16:37

You'll be able to see your GP really quickly and won't have to wait at A&E because the system won't be overloaded with immigrants.

I think I saw that on a Brexit advert.

twofingerstoEverything Wed 29-Mar-17 13:22:05

According to the fucking moronic Sunderland twats on R4 Today programme, our country can now 'go back to how it was.'

There you are. Brighter future assured.

twofingerstoEverything Wed 29-Mar-17 13:23:36

The NHS will be rolling in money and we will 'feel' more sovereign.

herethereandeverywhere Wed 29-Mar-17 13:24:39

southall that is the conclusion we are coming to. We're already out of the country, (though still paying UK taxes) so it's just about where to go next.

You have to wonder how many net contributors will leave though - where will the UK get all its higher rate tax payers from?

squishysquirmy Wed 29-Mar-17 13:25:25

Yeah. All the factories that closed are going to reopen. They're going to make, god I don't know, strawberry jam or something. Which we can sell to the Commonwealth.

unicornsIlovethem Wed 29-Mar-17 13:26:35

The economy will be shit, racists will feel able to spout their racist shite all over the place but your passport will be blue. Think of the blue passport!

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