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Can we stqrt calling it what is is?

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Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Mon 16-Jan-17 22:39:04

It's not exit, it's independence. Alternatively we should call it sovereignty or self rule.

ukusatoday Mon 16-Jan-17 23:07:03

its the smell of freedom in the morning

acatcalledjohn Mon 16-Jan-17 23:16:22

We are already sovereign.

So yes, it is an exit. We are exiting the economy we have been part of for decades.

Yet we have no fucking plan on how to do it because the government didn't realise that a 50/50 referendum could have gone either way.

It's madness. On acid.

ImperialBlether Mon 16-Jan-17 23:19:01

Oh I was just going to agree that it's an omnishambles.

Kaija Tue 17-Jan-17 00:28:11

You can call it that if it makes you feel better, op.

WidowWadman Tue 17-Jan-17 07:31:42

"economic suicide" is more accurate. Alternatively "pointless vandalism"

CoteDAzur Tue 17-Jan-17 07:34:11

"Turkey voting for Christmas" has a better ring to it.

CoteDAzur Tue 17-Jan-17 07:34:32

Turkeys voting for Christmas smile

MarciaBlaine Tue 17-Jan-17 07:36:37

Total fucking disaster is what I call it.

HoneywithLemon Tue 17-Jan-17 07:42:33

Madness is what it is. Tell me how it will improve your life to be have "sovereignty" and "independence"? Your life, personally? It's not worth the economic risk, not for a second.

BWatchWatcher Tue 17-Jan-17 07:46:40

It's insane.

MirabelleTree Tue 17-Jan-17 07:49:39

I think you can call it what you want but just understand huge numbers of the voting public that are growing each day as my DD's cohort come of voting age don't want it and are more likely to call it all the other things people have posted in this thread and worse.

theaveragewife Tue 17-Jan-17 07:49:58

I call it 'ruining my travel plans by fucking up the pound'.

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent Tue 17-Jan-17 07:50:22

I guess we will agree to differ.

In the meanwhile I have to ponder how sovereign we are if we cannot set our own limits and regulations on population movement. And how much control we have when the UK government can be fined by a court that sits in another country?

Efferlunt Tue 17-Jan-17 07:51:05

Parliament was alway sovereign. It's is the mother of all fuck ups.

InfiniteSheldon Tue 17-Jan-17 07:51:31

My life personally will be improved because my dc and my new dgchild will be safe from an overbearing EU Superstate skewing industry, farming and manufacturing with subsidies, rules and hangouts. We will no longer be net contributors to an unelected, wasteful behemoth. No chance of an EU army no more uncontrolled immigration. A new brighter better stronger future in the fastest growing economy. The economic Armageddon promised by Mark Carney et al was/is imaginary and doom mongering designed to keep us in our place. So yes lets start calling it like it is UK Independence Day grin

Efferlunt Tue 17-Jan-17 07:53:04

Because we agreed to abide by these regulations because it is economically beneficial for us. It's really not very complicated.

Motheroffourdragons Tue 17-Jan-17 07:53:54

Haha, infintesheldon....the pound is at a 35 year low against the dollar - it will take time, but don't worry, you will see the economic carnage when it gets here. We haven't left yet, remember ?

Carney has done a sterling job trying to keep everything on the straight and narrow for now, but he won't be able to do it for ever.

Efferlunt Tue 17-Jan-17 07:55:13

Because we agreed to abide by these regulations because it is economically beneficial for us. It's really not very complicated.

InfiniteSheldon Tue 17-Jan-17 07:56:33

I genuinely hope he gets the sack he lied and interfered in a national referendum. This level of economic fear exists because of his unsubstantiated lies.

WhispersOfWickedness Tue 17-Jan-17 07:59:05

I cannot explain how angry it makes me to hear people call it UK Independence Day angry
When other countries have an Independence Day, it is almost always from another country who acquired them without their consent (ironically often the UK) and from which they had to fight for their independence. Not from an organisation which they chose to join and which has far more benefits than disadvantages. Given the UK's colonial history, it is excruciatingly embarrassing for the rest of the world to hear us referring to a UK Independence Day.

theaveragewife Tue 17-Jan-17 07:59:47

Economic armageddon has started...it will definitely get worse as Motheroffourdragons said.

Only hope is Trump properly fucks things up...although a trade deal with the USA might help. So we're stuck needing to do a deal with the devil, or wanting the USA and EU to fail. Any new treaties with other countries could take years to write and finalise so expect this to go on for a while.

Carney <unnecessary swoon> is off isn't he?

Efferlunt Tue 17-Jan-17 08:02:49

Yes describing it as an Independence Day shows a profound ignorance. But I guess that's hardly surprising.

Motheroffourdragons Tue 17-Jan-17 08:03:36

CETA took a very very long time to finalise and nearly collapsed last year, so we can look to any new trade deals taking for ever to organise and finalise, and what do we do in the meantime ?

DoctorDonnaNoble Tue 17-Jan-17 08:05:12

It is indeed an omnishambles.
I'm sure your kids and grandkids will thank you when they have no workers' rights!

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