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MyDogIsNicerThanYourDog Sun 06-Nov-16 17:44:55

I do follow all the Brexit discussions but I wanted to ask this; I don't live in the UK but I am interested to know if the latest news regarding triggering article 50 is actually something that real people, living real lives are interested in/talking about or is it a media frenzy? Not so much interested in either side of the story - just if it is affecting daily life/conversation.

Draylon Sun 06-Nov-16 17:52:21

It comes up from time to time, especially when something gets said, or is on the news, someone might say 'Well, that's what happens when you walk away from Europe', or 'They think that's bad? Wait till we're out!' etc. At home, we (DH) and I talk about it quite a lot because it's cast a pall over DH's job, and our retirement plants, and trashed our savings. Oh, and our DC's futures as Europeans.

It has altered how I feel about a couple of friends. I genuinely, honestly thought they were smarter than this. But I (unkindly) do inquire of one, who's DS graduated from a master's at uni (engineering) in June, how his job hunt is coming along.... mentioning how my DH's company have shut down their graduate scheme to new entrants.

StillMaidOfStars Sun 06-Nov-16 17:58:38

Yes! I work with lots of EU citizens in a field heavily funded from EU sources.

We talk daily about the latest Brexit news. We are still not beyond the occasional drunken shedding of tears.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Sun 06-Nov-16 18:27:32

No, it's not come up in any conversation I've had with friends and family.

lalalonglegs Sun 06-Nov-16 18:34:30

Yes, like Maid, I know a lot of EU citizens (mostly high-rate tax-payers) who are terrified about what is going on and how their livelihoods and lives may be affected. Although tabloids like to portray European migrants to the UK as a load of chancers looking to trouser a few quid, a lot of people I know came here because they actually admired the way the UK conducted itself in both political and civic terms and they are - as am I - absolutely disgusted at the way the government and a vocal minority of the population are behaving.

Draylon Sun 06-Nov-16 18:44:17

lala- who realised how big the box is that some people should be put back in needed to be?

Coffeethrowtrampbitch Sun 06-Nov-16 18:45:02

Yes, my family are all quite political so we discuss any political need including Brexit.

Although it is actually one of the things we talk about least as my mum was leave and my sister and I remain and usually we all have similar opinions.

We also live in Scotland so speculate what impact each chapter of the Brexit saga will have on the decision to hold another independence referendum.

Draylon Sun 06-Nov-16 18:45:53

Thick- why? Are you all of one accord? Or could the fall-out of dissent be too ugly?

birdybirdywoofwoof Sun 06-Nov-16 18:47:14

Ime, remainer friends talk about it a lot.
Leaver friends don't. They think it's done and dusted and all fine.

Mistigri Sun 06-Nov-16 18:47:31

I work for one of Britain's larger exporters so it's a very big deal where I work. After the A50 decision was handed down, I had a notification in my inbox within minutes.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer Sun 06-Nov-16 18:54:05

Its only a topic of conversation when something happens

And i dont talk about it with all my friends as the vast majority dont give a shit

MirabelleTree Sun 06-Nov-16 18:55:01

Yes it comes up. A friend text me about it the other day. It is a no go topic with some of our family though.

Draylon Sun 06-Nov-16 19:00:15

birdy- I sat in a pub at someone's leaving (sic!) do 2 weeks ago where two primary leavers said they didn't know what the fuss was about, as nothing had changed. Someone else remarked that we haven't left. The 2 leavers are NHS nurses, hopefully with a brain-cell between them!

The 'don't give a shit' thing is what might yet save us from this madness. I have mentioned this before, but I genuinely believe a lot of Brexit voters wandered blearily, hung over, down to the polling booth that day as they were off to sign on, anyway, and thought 'Let's stir this up a bit, never voted about anything ever before but hey! Let's sock this to whoever it is in power now cos my life is shite the government'

And will never consider it again, let alone vote!

twofingerstoGideon Sun 06-Nov-16 23:07:12

I agree that many people have barely given it another thought after 23rd June. Lots think the topic is 'boring', as evidenced on MN when people object to EU-related topics being in AIBU, for example.
However, it is discussed daily where I work because it has a very real impact on our livelihoods and will be potentially be very damaging to the institution.
My remain friends talk about it wheneever we meet and have deep concerns about the divisions the referendum has caused.

jaws5 Mon 07-Nov-16 00:08:36

I talk about it every day, at home with partner and children, and at work as a few of us are Europeans and most others are British remainers. The few people I know who voted Leave are family and friends of my partner, and they think "it will all be fine after a while and we'll be free" and when we point out all the contradictions even between Leavers in government, they want to stop talking about it.

APlaceOnTheCouch Mon 07-Nov-16 00:20:27

We talk about it every day at home. On Friday I met someone about an unrelated subject and we ended up talking about Brexit/Art 50 too.

RortyCrankle Mon 07-Nov-16 07:15:01

I'm a Leaver and my friends and I discuss it. It's too important to be ignored and I don't think it's true that 'people have barely given it another thought since June'.

Peregrina Mon 07-Nov-16 07:50:40

Yes, we talk about it most days, but discuss with outsiders less and usually find that they voted Remain. Leavers, we find, don't want a discussion, they just change the subject.

BusterGonad Mon 07-Nov-16 08:04:02

My dog I think the basics are remainers will talk about it freely, leavers won't because they open themselves up to a lot of verbal abuse, as I'm sure you've noticed on MN many a time.

MedSchoolRat Mon 07-Nov-16 19:51:41

I think I brought Article-50 up at work because I was aghast at the personal attacks on the judges.

I work in academia. My boss the professor who gets in all the money to keep our team employed has referred to Brexit as the "Big Black Cloud on the Horizon" in the context of future work for our team.. but mostly we don't talk about brexit just lately. One friend has brought Brexit up a lot, but our attention is more taken up with US presidential election right now.

Jupiter2Mars Mon 07-Nov-16 19:57:43

Yes, it comes up about 4 hours + into a get together. It usually comes up about the same time as a discussion about how the USA managed to come up with Clinton and Trump.

I find people are generally respectful of each other's views and opinions when it is a conversation between friends or even just acquaintances. That is in sharp contrast to how the media portray it.

WrongTrouser Mon 07-Nov-16 21:22:22

I have mentioned this before, but I genuinely believe a lot of Brexit voters wandered blearily, hung over, down to the polling booth that day as they were off to sign on, anyway, and thought 'Let's stir this up a bit, never voted about anything ever before but hey! Let's sock this to whoever it is in power now cos my life is shite the government

And will never consider it again, let alone vote

Ooh, there goes another of those inclusive, un-bigoted, liberal remainersgrin . Love the hang over touch, really gets that patronising, stereotyping contempt note just spot on.

lalalonglegs Mon 07-Nov-16 21:50:04

Having worked in a polling station on referendum day, I can confirm that, while none of the people in my ward appeared drunk or hungover, many of the Leave voters had never voted before: they were the ones aggressively asking me why they had to mark their ballot in pencil and wanting me to check their paper to make sure that they had marked it correctly - so much for a secret ballot grin. They were also the people who told me that they had no doubt that the government would make sure that their vote wouldn't count so true believers in democracy. hmm

TuckersBadLuck Mon 07-Nov-16 21:57:09

They were also the people who told me that they had no doubt that the government would make sure that their vote wouldn't count

Maybe they were right after all. It's a conspiracy theory isn't it? All this appointing dickheads to organise things, forgetting to have the correct legislation in place etc., couldn't it all be a cunning plan?

lalalonglegs Mon 07-Nov-16 22:02:15

The government seem to be doing a pretty good impression of a body of people absolutely desperate to implement Brexit, no matter how damaging it might be so I only wish the Leavers, who seemed to think I'd be removing their votes from the ballot box the moment they left the polling station, were right smile.

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