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RBeer Mon 26-Sep-16 16:15:27

Looks like the fanatics on the right are getting their way and a Hard Brexit is the way its going.
Time to start planning the future....

Reuters.
Britain appears to be heading for a 'hard Brexit' under which its relationship with the European Union is reduced to little more than trade agreements, Scotland's external affairs minister Fiona Hyslop said on Monday.

Scotland recently appointed its own representative, Michael Russell, to take part in talks with Brexit minister David Davis to establish a UK position under which talks with the EU might take place.

"They've met within the last 10 days. The process for those internal negotiations is currently being established," Hyslop told Reuters in Paris after meeting France's European Affairs Minister Harlem Desir to discuss Scotland's attempts to make Brexit as much like remaining in the EU as possible.

"I'm worried just now that the UK looks as if its heading to a hard Brexit. However those internal discussions with Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland have only just started, so we will try and shift that position," she said.

IamWendy Mon 26-Sep-16 16:37:30

Wasnt the original plan for the EU ', little more than trade agreements'?

RBeer Mon 26-Sep-16 16:45:01

Wasnt the original plan for the EU ', little more than trade agreements'?

Yup, back when there was no such thing as mobile phones. Its called progress.

IamWendy Mon 26-Sep-16 16:53:11

What do mobile phones have to do with an EU army & freedom of movement.

user1470043860 Mon 26-Sep-16 16:53:26

Yup, back when there was no such thing as mobile phones. Its called progress

No, it's called totalitarianism.

PattyPenguin Mon 26-Sep-16 16:57:10

Little more than trade agreements, so:
- no more co-operation on science, particularly bio-sciences, one of the UK's main fields of expertise
- much greater difficulty organising educational exchanges at Higher Education level
- no more European Arrest Warrant, back to our villains legging it to the Costas and laughing at attempts to extradite them.

To name but a few.

user1470043860 Mon 26-Sep-16 16:59:08

Those still could be attained without an over powering political union.

Thefishewife Mon 26-Sep-16 17:04:03

Let's see who wins the French election first Holland and the bloody French can talk about what they like however he is on his way out if the far right win then there will be a frexit not hard
Brexit

Also lets see what happens in Germany of local elections are anything to go by it is looking like merkels party will be the junior party next year she is loosing the Germans

The Irish won't want to punish us what hurts us hurts them

The little show of "unity"they tried to put on the other week backfired badly the Italians have there won issues have don't want to be Invloved in junker the drinkers games

And I surspect when the polish and the eastern block see the reailty of what hard brexit means for there citizens who work and live in the uk they might be voting very different

Freedom to work not freedom to claim that's all we want

Thefishewife Mon 26-Sep-16 17:05:22

Country's like Hungary have nit forgiven Germany for trying to bulling them over the migrant crisis witch Germany caused

Thefishewife Mon 26-Sep-16 17:08:40

The junker wants us to countine the freedom to leech

You come to the uk with a job lined up , health care insurance and the expectation you can house your self

I can't see why the the People have such a issue with that

RBeer Mon 26-Sep-16 17:10:25

People should try to get their financial affairs in order because the Tories have just pressed the reset button.

GettinTrimmer Mon 26-Sep-16 17:24:14

Overpowering? How many of our laws do you think come from the EU?

IamWendy Mon 26-Sep-16 17:26:36

Given how well we are doing already, when every remainer said we'd sink into a pit off fiery hell within 6 minutes of the vote, then I'm pretty sure we'll thrive on our own.

GettinTrimmer Mon 26-Sep-16 17:31:42

Too early to tell, let's hope not! Many of the predictions based on article 50 not being triggered yet.

SapphireStrange Mon 26-Sep-16 18:27:56

within 6 minutes of the vote

No, within 6 minutes of actually, you know, LEAVING.

GettinTrimmer Mon 26-Sep-16 19:19:56

My post was badly worded, but I agree with Sapphire, predictions based on article 50 triggered sooner than this.

twofingerstoGideon Mon 26-Sep-16 19:27:58

What do mobile phones have to do with an EU army

Not this shit again.

twofingerstoGideon Mon 26-Sep-16 19:36:30

Is it me or do half the posts so far make no sense at all?

The little show of "unity"they tried to put on the other week backfired badly the Italians have there won issues have don't want to be Invloved in junker the drinkers games - Eh?
The junker wants us to countine the freedom to leech = You what?
Country's like Hungary have nit forgiven Germany for trying to bulling them over the migrant crisis witch Germany caused - Eh?

twofingerstoGideon Mon 26-Sep-16 19:40:36

Given how well we are doing already, when every remainer said we'd sink into a pit off fiery hell within 6 minutes of the vote, then I'm pretty sure we'll thrive on our own.

How well are we doing?
'...every remainer...' - really? They said that?
'6 minutes'? Hyperbole adds nothing whatsoever to the debate.

smallfox2002 Mon 26-Sep-16 20:04:36

"You come to the uk with a job lined up , health care insurance and the expectation you can house your self "

Very small numbers of EU immigrants are on any kind of benefit, in fact they are under represented as a share of the population on benefits and in social housing.

But of course what you propose is fine, as long is its reciprocal to the Brits abroad, see all those pensiones in Spain? They'll all be back here.

I see the swivel eyed loons are out in force tonight. Is it a full moon?

smallfox2002 Mon 26-Sep-16 20:07:18

"Given how well we are doing already, when every remainer said we'd sink into a pit off fiery hell within 6 minutes of the vote, then I'm pretty sure we'll thrive on our own."

Well after the vote and the days after the economy pretty much went into turmoil, all of the good news that we've had recently has seen us pretty much go back to where we were just before the crash, but since we've had massive stimulus from the BOE then to go back to where we were isn't that much of an achievement.

Oh and the effects of the fall in the pound which is still very low compared to its average over the last 2 years, we haven't seen the detrimental effect of this yet.

Thefishewife Mon 26-Sep-16 20:33:53

poster smallfox2002 Mon 26-Sep-16 20:04:36

If it's only one man and his dog what's junker the drinker so against

I have no issues with our leeches staying put why should some Brit with no job no were to live go someone were else and put pressure on another country

It always should have been freedom to work

In all countries you have Heath insurance , find your own place to live with out supplement from the said government and make sure you have a job on arrival if you can't afford to support yourself then you need to stay put

We have enough people here that can wash cars Ect and the low skilled workers depress wages and allow emolyers to go Dickens and pay people Oliver Twist wages

smallfox2002 Mon 26-Sep-16 20:36:56

So what about the Brits on benefits abroad? Shall we have them back? You know there are more Brits on benefits in Germany and France than they have people on benefits here?

"find your own place to live with out supplement from the said government and make sure you have a job on arrival if you can't afford to support yourself then you need to stay put "

That is how it works here, if you can't support yourself you have to go home. No one arrives from the EU under of freedom of movement and is given a house and benefits. If you are jobless after under 3 months you have to leave.

Ahhh the ignorant ride again.

jaws5 Mon 26-Sep-16 21:02:47

Ignorance is powerful, and manichaeism given carte blanche by a moronic referendum will win against reason. I am seeing a dangerous anti-intellectualism reminiscent of the 30s.
fishwife the vast majority of EU citizens in the UK are graduates, multilingual professional people who contribute to the economy. You are obviously ignorant of this fact.

smallfox2002 Mon 26-Sep-16 21:03:39

Oh and they are net contributors to the exchequer.

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