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lljkk Fri 22-Jul-16 19:13:14

(I know what Remainers will say smile ).

When do you want Article 50 to be invoked? What is latest acceptable date?
If any, what conditions must be met?

Sooverthis Fri 22-Jul-16 19:16:51

Really there is absolutely no point posting on these threads anymore the behaviour is just unpleasant

lljkk Fri 22-Jul-16 19:26:39

If no one choose to post, then fair enough.
But hey that's one poster so far. Any more? wink

DS is a Remainer & wanted A50 on 24th June.

lljkk Fri 22-Jul-16 19:27:01

sorry, kid nattering distracted me & NO SODDING edit on MN... DS is a LEAVER and wanted A50 on 24 June.

MissMargie Fri 22-Jul-16 19:28:09


Bearbehind Fri 22-Jul-16 19:28:27

I'm really interested to hear the answers to this.

sooverthis, the behaviour isn't unpleasant- it's just that Remain want answers which Leave can't give.

It's not unreasonable to want to understand what we've been dragged into and what you're aiming to achieve ie, what conditions need to be met.

AnchorDownDeepBreath Fri 22-Jul-16 19:31:47

It's not unreasonable to want to understand what we've been dragged into and what you're aiming to achieve ie, what conditions need to be met.

No, but none of us (whichever way you voted) get a say in that. There won't be further votes on conditions. It's all down to the government now.

lljkk Fri 22-Jul-16 19:33:51

honestly, I'm just curious what Leave voters want now, wrt when A50 gets triggered, plus it's a month later, so a bit of hindsight they may not want now A50 the same date when they thought they did. don't want to rehash any of the Remain vs. Leave vote arguments. (don't we have enough threads about that already, is there anything new to say?).

I only know 2 Leave voters IRL, I can't even ask on FB.

(Kid still babbling non-stop about Pokemon in my ear, hence you understand my desire to escape to some other topic)

Bearbehind Fri 22-Jul-16 19:34:36

anchor, that is a complete cop out- you can state what you want to happen even if you can't control it- that was the premise of the referendum in the first place.

lljkk Fri 22-Jul-16 19:35:20

I wondered if A50 got delayed after January 2017 would only the fervent Leavers be annoyed, or at what point would the general public/mass Leave voters feel cheesed off it hadn't happened yet. When will the Euroskeptic newspapers start ranting about a delay in A50 trigger?

MinniePluto Fri 22-Jul-16 19:37:02

Within the next 3-6 years is acceptable to me, their's a ton of work to be done, so I'm not suprised that it wasn't activated on June 24.

I don't have a latest deadline as long as their is clear progress.

No specific condition, I just don't want us to be so tightly entwined with Europe.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Fri 22-Jul-16 19:40:44

I didn't expect before 2017. I hope some time in 2017.

FlaviaAnsell Fri 22-Jul-16 19:48:06

I'll probably regret getting sucked back in to referendum talk, but -

I think early next year.

I wouldn't talk about setting conditions. One, it's a negotiation, so you've got to expect some give and take. Two, you don't begin any major negotiation by revealing your whole position to the other side. For the same reason I don't want or expect our team to splash their plans all over the media.

I think there's a lot to sort out before we get that far. Not just us putting together a team and drawing up a programme, but the rest of the EU (rEU?) doing the same. Is the EU commission going to deal with it, or are all the countries going to be involved? So far Merkel and Hollande have been doing all the talking. Does anyone else get a say? They've both got elections next year, at different times, which will complicate the timings. Could give us a bargaining chip, if Hollande, say, was eager for it to happen before or after his election in the spring.

GhostofFrankGrimes Fri 22-Jul-16 19:48:50

The longer A50 is delayed, the longer the economic uncertainty continues and the economy ain't looking too healthy after 4 weeks..

lljkk Fri 22-Jul-16 20:18:09

At first I thought shock at 6 yrs... but maybe it will work. Or even longer wait like 10 or 15 yrs or never. By the time it happens the markets could be used to the idea & stop behaving like lemmings at the slightest sniff of uncertainty about UK relationship with EU.

FlaviaAnsell Fri 22-Jul-16 20:26:45

Iljkk, we have an election in 2020, if not before. The govt will need to show that progress has been made before then. And rEU won't want to wait that long.

I agree the markets need to calm themselves down and stop reacting to rumours and suppositions about what might happen.

lljkk Fri 22-Jul-16 20:29:45

Is that how you feel, Flavia, will you feel cheated in A50 isn't invoked before next election/2020?

FlaviaAnsell Fri 22-Jul-16 20:53:32

If that happened, then yes, I'd be very frustrated, disappointed, etc. But unless something major happened to completely change the European situation, I can't see how it could be delayed that long. It would be political suicide for Theresa May, who came to office saying Brexit means Brexit, and as I said, I don't think rEU would tolerate too long a delay.

Corcory Fri 22-Jul-16 21:36:11

There's loads to do before we implement article 50 but I hope we have everything in place by the beginning of next year.

Kaija Fri 22-Jul-16 21:37:54

Not just about calming markets, but about existing and potential investors knowing what they are investing in. It seems that a lot of inward investment to the uk is here because of access to the single market. We need to know as soon as possible whether we are going to be able to retain this.

However whether we need to trigger article 50 in order to find out I have no idea.

And no I didn't vote leave, but as some are fond of telling us we are all leavers now (probably).

loobyloo1234 Fri 22-Jul-16 21:38:14

I knew Bearbehind would be on here. No point in any threads for Leavers OP ... honestly. They just get gatecrashed by hateful Remainers these days

Bearbehind Fri 22-Jul-16 21:51:37

And I knew you'd pop up and not answer the question loobylou grin

loobyloo1234 Fri 22-Jul-16 21:54:49

Why don't you stick to your own thread Bearbehind and let people get a word in edge ways ... cheers anyway wine Enjoy your night never listening to anything anyone has to say that is positive or that goes against your constant criticism

Bearbehind Fri 22-Jul-16 22:00:22

Crack on with getting your words in edgeways looby

No one is stopping you or anyone else, but like all the other threads, no one has any answers, not even those who voted for this situation.

Kaija Fri 22-Jul-16 22:00:34

Don't mind bearbehind, loobyloo, you go ahead: we're all ears.

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