A thread for Leave voters to list the positives of leaving the EU

[Bearbehind]

Seeing as the previous thread is nearly full and no one on it has given us a single tangible positive that we can expect from leaving the EU as opposed to staying I thought I'd start a shiny new thread with a thousand opportunities.

[Peregrina]

I am not eligible for this thread, not being a Leave voter, but it's been open for more than an hour. I thought it would at least have got to 25 posts by now.

[nauticant]

We can return fully to our lovely imperial measurement systems. Apparently scientists have been calling for years for nanoyards and picoounces. Give them what they want and they'll be keen to stay in good old Blighty.

[fakenamefornow]

Trying to think of one.....

Oh, oh, got one! Farage resigned, hopefully we'll never hear from him again.

Seriously though. I'd really love to hear some positives, ones that can be properly defended and make sense. I'm very depressed about this and trying desperately to see some light.

[BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington]

Apparently political correctness and health and safety will no longer be gone mad. I'm not sure which way they'll go. I suspect Victorian.

[Peregrina]

We got rid of Cameron, Osborne and Gove.

[Globetrotter100]

nauticant scientists' hyptherical calls for outmoded measurements are now null an void, what with them all leaving in the country etc.

Seeing the back of Farage is bliss though, like using Vanish for the first time on a nasty stain on my nation's sad history

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

UK businesses will no longer be crippled by EU directives on things like maximum working hours.

[Thegirlinthefireplace]

Itsallgoing the working hours directive was completely ineffective anyway. Every place I ever worked would have you sign away your rights on that along with the rest of your contract documentation.

And is losing worker protection a good thing?

I'm hoping you are being sarcastic and I'm being thick to respond seriously.

[LordRothermereBlackshirtCunt]

So, good for businesses, bad for workers? Just as I thought. Incidentally, many people in this country - me included - already work over (sometimes well over) 48 hours a week.

[LordRothermereBlackshirtCunt]

Oh, I see that might have been sarcasm from ItsAll

[twofingerstoGideon]

Now that we're not going to be part oft he EU, we won't feel pressured to put a stop to zero hours contracts as 10 member states have already done. I mean, workers love the 'flexibility' of zero hours contracts, don't they? Must be true because IDS said so.

[HelpfulChap]

Ah, I see. A rhetorical thread.

[MelanieCheeks]

Not at all, Helpful, if you have an actual positive then many many people would love to know about it!

[SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace]

Is anyone listening to 'Brexit Street' on radio 4 right now? I have to say the reportage is cringe-makingly patronising and snobbish. However, all the leave voters are citing immigration and nothing else. It's really depressing.

[Bearbehind]

The lack of replies on this thread is beyond depressing.

We keep being reminded that 52% of the electorate voted for this- surely someone can give us a reason to be hopeful.

What will be be improved by leaving? what the fuck did you vote for?

[Corcory]

I think it's already been said on a previous thread. Leave voters have made comments when asked but have just been shot down in flames so why on earth should they join in just for you remainers amusement.

[gamerchick]

See that's the thing though, these threads aren't for giving hope. They're for dishing out kickings. Nobody can tell us what's going to happen and anyone I've observed giving reasons gets jumped on and poked with pointy sticks for 1000 posts. Leavers are probably sick of it.

[Corcory]

Exactly gamer.

[Peregrina]

If Leavers are probably sick of it, when they got what they voted for, then what do you expect others to feel?

It's the complete absence of any plan which is worrying. Now TM has told us that she isn't going to start negotiating this year. IMO that's perfectly sensible, but I doubt if it's what the majority of the Leave voters wanted.

Now in a General Election, even if the side you want loses, there are usually some positive things that the winners give.

[LumpySpacedPrincess]

1. Short term pain for long term gain.
   
   
2. Free Unicorns in every packet of cornflakes.
   
   
3. Um.
   
   
4. Short term pain for long term pain.
   
   
5. Britishtishtishness, as much as you can eat.

[Bearbehind]

corcry, the problem is that on other threads Leave voters have 'said so X would happen'

When it is then pointed out that either X happening is nothing to do with the EU or the benefits of X are outweighed by the downsides, the Leave voters just flounce off and say they're not being listened to.

There's plenty of us listening- we just want to hear what will improve - is that really too much to ask?

[Peregrina]

If TM does put her money where her mouth is and announces regional investment programmes, and e.g. makes good her promises to do something constructive for white underachieving boys, then yes, it will be positive.

What else could she do? Provide more money for Local Authorities, halt the closure of Sure Start programmes. The thing is, I haven't heard her say any of this.

If London property prices collapse then yes, it might enable people to get on the housing ladder. At the moment though, it's all ifs and maybes.

[Corcory]

It wasn't for the Brexit campaigners - Boris et al - to organise and implement what was going to happen post Brexit that is for the current government to do and they weren't in the government. What is surprising is the arrogance of DC etc. that they didn't see the need to make a plan for the possibility of a leave vote.
I feel the absolutely the right person is now PM and she is doing all the right things in not implementing article 50 until we have looked at all the options and have a comprehensive plan.

[OurBlanche]

But there were some interesting ideas, some positives, real ones, given in the last thread... but they were dismissed, or ignored, with some tediously repetitive rhetoric.

Every time one of these threads start I hope for a balanced discussion, to see what MNers would hope will happen now, but no... the rhetoric continues, the hyperbole, and venom.

Question: Remainers, what the fuck did you vote for?
Answer: to stay as we are: the dismantling of the NHS; destruction of schools, starving of the benefit system; a smash and grab for land and new housing, regardless of the real local needs; a greater power and economic divide; the Londonisation of the UK, oh, and getting Turkey into the EU quite quickly
Question: Oh, why the fuck did you do that, that is really stupid isn't it?

And on...

[twofingerstoGideon]

OurBlanche
...the dismantling of the NHS; destruction of schools, starving of the benefit system; a smash and grab for land and new housing, regardless of the real local needs; a greater power and economic divide; the Londonisation of the UK
Can you explain what any of the above have to do with the EU rather than UK government policies/practices?
I'm not clear whether you're suggesting that these things - along with 'getting Turkey into the EU' - were things that remainers were voting for or things that Brexit voters thought would be resolved by us leaving the EU.
Could you clarify please?