The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?(983 Posts)
THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD SEVEN!
The Story So Far – Blue Corner
Johnson & Gove stabbed Cameron & Osborne. They then won a big vote about something or other. I forget the details. I’m not sure it matters anymore.
Johnson got then stabbed by Gove. Johnson joined Leadsom. Gove got stung by his mate Boles who was trying stab Leadsom, and he ended up getting stabbed by just about everyone.
Where We Are Now – Blue Corner
Out of the ashes of the mess that the posh boys made, emerged two unexpected contenders to become the Torchbearer for the Tories.
The Home Secretary, and the former figure of hate, is now looking like she might be the choice of sanity and the one who might just be able to save us from ourselves. She is the choice of the left and centre. The left and centre now being anyone who thinks ‘The 1950s were very nice, but actually we’d prefer not to go back there. A return to the 1970s is far enough, thanks’.
She is supported by just about the entire mainstream media (which in itself is quite an achievement – The Sun and The Guardian being united in editorial opinion) and the majority of Conservative MPs. We don’t know this, but she quite possibly unites the Labour Party on the subject too.
The Junior minister made good, and has outmanoeuvred all her superiors in the cabinet to throw her hat in the ring. The trouble is that she’s either somewhat naïve, a bit of an arsehole or a scheming liar. And that’s the charitable version.
She is emerging as the Sarah Palin of the UK, and has some dubious looking Tea Party links. In the era of post fact politics Project Fear is now Project Smear. Of course this makes her Mrs Umbridge, the poor apple pie lover, bullied by the political elite and media establishment, rather than a fruit cake.
Underestimate her appeal at your peril. She has a big field of unicorns somewhere that we’ve not been able to track down on googlemaps so far, and she is preparing to unleash them.
She is the choice of the Right. She is supported by much of the depths of twitter, Louise Mensch, UKIP, Arron Banks, BNP and Britain First.
Oh and that tax return?
Our future fate is to be decided by 150,000 Conservative Members (two thirds of whom are men and roughly 50% of whom are over sixty).
How we look back at David Cameron’s tweet on the 4th May 2015 with such fondness:
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband.
Send me the link for the petition to ‘Come Back Dave, all is forgiven’. We have at least six weeks of this particular shower of shit to look forward to, before the next one hits.
The Story So Far – Purple Corner
Many years ago, Nigel Farage founded the idea and started his one man campaign for the UK to leave the EU. (Except he didn’t. It was someone else’s idea. He just took over and took the credit for it). He became the poster boy for the Leave campaign, despite not being affiliated with it. He stood and claimed victory, without a shot fired.
As he said to the European Parliament with impeccable manners and good grace, ‘We aren’t laughing now’. To be fair to him, we weren’t. We were all shouting ‘FUCK OFF’ instead. After securing his £7000 pay rise as an MEP, he decided enough was enough, and it was time to ‘get his life back’ (he got sacked) and look for a career as a contestant on reality TV shows.
I hear Help I’m a Celeb have offered half a million for his services.
Where We Are Now – Purple Corner
Quicker than you can say, ‘Oh Thank God(win) for that’, we are already are starting to miss ‘Our Nige’, the cheeky chappy from next door. Instead the options are looking bleak, as candidates start to crawl out from under their rocks. The spectre of Arron Banks and his call to arms for ‘freedom’ lurks in the shadow.
For those of you unfamiliar with Mr Banks so far in this story, he’s one of UKIP’s biggest donors. He and his mate Andy Wigmore run an offshore insurance company out of Gibraltar. Banks, was head honcho of Leave.eu and one of his other mates, hypnotist Paul McKenna, gave advice on how to influence people with propaganda. Banks and Wigmore have some connections with Belize. Bank’s ex-wife was accused of being one of the KGB’s best agents. They are now divorced and she has a harassment order out on him. He does not like the ‘Uk elite’ and takes it personality.
Sounds like just the kind of guy, you’d love to move in as a neighbour.
This is the very definition of shit.
The Story So Far – Red Corner
Once upon a time, there was a man named Blair. He waved a lot of flags said ‘Cool Britannia’ and smiled a lot. But Tony turned out to not be such a good ‘un. He didn’t play by the rules and got caught out. Blair was made to appear on national television to defend himself. He cried, and told us how he couldn’t sleep at night, but actually he did do the right thing and everyone is still wrong and we are all picking on him.
Does he need to go away and think about it for a while? Say, in a locked room for several years?
Where We Are Now – Red Corner
The WMD that Bliar lost in Iraq finally turned up in Labour HQ on 24th June. However, no one has been prepared to let off a controlled explosion yet. Apparently there is something of an aversion to Big Red Buttons (otherwise know to us simple folks as ‘Agreeing on Something’ and ‘Making Decisions’) within the party.
Corbyn, the champion of Momentum, has been carrying on as if nothing is happening, there is no problem and its everyone else is wrong, insisting that since he had a mandate from the people 10 months ago and it’s all still honky dory. He’s doing his job just fine and leading is well, a bit of an inconvenience to his rally schedule.
The Unions seem to have declared war on Tom Watson. His name has been added to the ever growing list of ‘traitors’.
Across the country action has been taken against these ‘traitors’. Normally this behaviour would be classed as ‘thuggery’ and ‘intimidation’. In post-fact Britain though, this is now acceptable, if it’s from the Left. Violence against Labour members is only disgusting if it is carried out by the right, you see.
Apparently, as the Momentum chief says, ‘winning’ is only a ‘small bit’ of democracy that matters to ‘political elites who want to keep power themselves’.
Obviously political gains that help and protect the interests of the working classes and poor are surplus to requirements. I guess their ultimate aim is to win no Labour seats at all then. Good stuff. We are headed in the right direction for that one.
Angela Eagle left her doorstep, and went on the telly after a week of refusing to make a decision to say ‘Ok I’m going to stand to remove a man who refuses to make decisions’. Apparently she is doing this to ‘Heal Labour’.
Someone break it to her, that if Labour gets its legs blown off by Corbynite, the chances of them healing, are somewhat remote.
To make matter worse, Corbyn disagrees with how you get on the ballot paper, and might not be it at this rate. Or it might end up in court. Like article 50.
Owen Smith is the other pretender to the Crown of Roses. We know who he is now. He’s err… He’s still welsh!
What do we reckon the chances of Labour surviving as one party are? Zero to none? This is more like wading through shit than a shower of it.
The Story So Far – Yellow Corner
Where We Are Now – Yellow Corner
Everyone’s been praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party. Finally, Tim Farron, has awoken, removed his splinters from his arse, got off the fence in response to this. Amid growing rumblings of a complete political realignment and fleeing Labour and Conservative MPs, he says:
‘Hey folks, this political turmoil looks fun, can we join in too?!’
No shit left to share.
The consensus of opinion is that we might be a tiny teeny bit screwed.
Did someone mention the EU? EU? Oh fuck that, we’ve just about forgotten all that now!
Bigger fish to fry.
British ones of course.
We need really do need Gandalf to come save us from this madness.
Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though
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I've been out of the thread for a couple of days (thus missed a couple of threads!)
Has anyone linked to this scary article in the Mail?
Arron Banks has threatened Tories that if they elect Theresa May then he will set up a new super-UKIP with at least £10 million and utterly defeat them. If Leadsom wins, then he will use the money to fight Labour candidates instead.
Banks said that he and others had put £7.5 million into Brexit and Ukip in the space of 18 months.
He added: 'We might be prepared to put £10 million into a new Ukip to fight Theresa May.
'If May wins, then Ukip is back in full force on absolute steroids and we and other backers will go to the ends of the earth to defeat her.'
Time to dig out my "Gandalf for President" badge. Oh wait, it wasn't mine, it belonged to the head girl when I was in the lower sixth. God, she was cool. Sorry, off topic again. I'm becoming a little hysterical, I think.
Epic intro. Loving the addition of Gandalf. All we need now are some orcs. Oh....
Cameron looked bloody relaxed at Wimbledon today. Even when he was booed.
Is it time yet to suggest Red for PM? At least then we'd have someone with a bit of a fucking grasp of reality.
I love you, Red.
Most of Banks' funding of Ukip appears to be in the form of loans. I don't know what that means, in a practical sense, though.
By immediately positioning themselves as plucky underdogs/ordinary people/the downtrodden/victims in any particular discussion, Banks/Ukip/Loathsome protect themselves from any criticism by the 'Remainstream Media' (I kid you not, that's an actual phrase) and brush off any concerns about their less savoury links. Fucking scary.
Liney He's either in "I don't care" land, or seriously medicated. I sometimes think he's skirting into a nervous breakdown and they're keeping him hidden as much as possible - trotting him out for "safe" appearances.
Red Stellar intro, as always. You do make me laugh.
I wonder if the threat by Arron Banks won't backfire on him. Tories have never really been good at backing down from anything - they fight it all the way. I suspect this may just piss them off and boost voting for May. I hope.
Thanks Red. I think the only way forward now to have a functioning country is to have loads more political parties from Corbyn and momentum through to Arron, 'insecure attachment and needing revenge' Banks. The cracks in both PLP and the conservatives look too big .
There's are terrifying interview with AB in the times today. Basically he's pinched everything Trump has done. The only remote hood I have is that he's now pissed off Murdoch. Hoping for Murdoch and May feels a pretty desperate place to be.
I find myself wondering, however, why we can't wait to go after Blair? It's been sitting for this long, can't the MPs wait another 6 months, and focus on stabilising the current government and go after Blair later?
They might be going after Blair because it distracts people and they don't know what else to do
Can't they just pin him to the wall with a unicorn horn and leave him there for now?
Apparently the children thing is a campaign tactic going all the way back to 2001:
"In the 2001 leadership contest, Norman Tebbit described Duncan Smith as “a remarkably normal family man with children” – a perfectly innocent statement of fact, Tebbit insisted.
But in the context of a tight race it was perceived as an implicit dig at Michael Portillo, whose wife, Carolyn, was unable to have children after treatment for cancer. Duncan Smith went on to win the leadership, defeating the much more experienced frontrunner, Ken Clarke."
Oh look, it's that well-known Loathsome fan, IDS.
okay can someone summarise the issue with andrea's tax return? don't understand that stuff v well.
Marking place. Excellent summary again Red.
I am REALLY going to have to do some work this week though. These threads have reduced my productivity somewhat.
That's very scary, giraffe
The Bristol Post has this story too:
He hinted again at creating a new party to replace UKIP - he's said that before, but I just thought Farage was in the way :
"We might be prepared to put £10 million into a new Ukip to fight Theresa May"
He seems to be trying to create a new right wing Tory / far right UKIP alliance - who knows, maybe Btitain First and the BNP in one big tent - and eventually under the "right leader" - himself ?
"The big win would be Ukip and the Tories on the right coming back together under the right leader. That is going to give her leadership a massive upsurge and I believe it would also be very popular among the Tory members"
Ginger I couldn't disagree with you more strongly about waiting before going after Blair. What he did - with his cabinet's backing let's not forget - was wicked and shameful. The kindest thing I can say was that it was criminally reckless. It's been thirteen years and I don't see how the labour party can move forward until he is held to account.
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