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"History will thank us for Brexit"

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Winterbiscuit Wed 29-Jun-16 23:02:22

Radical change is never without risk. But I truly believe that history will thank us for Brexit (Telegraph)

"No, my dear Remainer friends, I don’t have buyer’s remorse. I’m grateful to you for asking so nicely. I’m still just as elated and moved, one week on, by the public’s epoch-defining, awe-inspiring decision to defy the establishment, even though the value of my and every other pension pot took a (temporary) tumble before bouncing back. I’m even more excited by the opportunities to reset the UK’s domestic and trade policies, helping to turn us, over time, into Europe’s most competitive economy and putting in place the right institutions to govern globalisation, making it more resilient and sustainable."

"I’m convinced that Leave voters did the right thing, and that we will, in time, be eternally grateful to them for daring to dream."

bakeoffcake Wed 29-Jun-16 23:04:45

So the Leavers think that a week after the vote, because the markets went down then came back up, everything is going to be fine.

Dream on. It hasn't even started yet.

GlassBrexiteer Wed 29-Jun-16 23:09:33

no one can know how this will pan out in the long term, but it's good to see some looking on the bright side in the media

my feeling is that the EU is doomed and we are better getting out early

Dream on. It hasn't even started yet <-still doggedly looking on the blackside, I see

80sMum Wed 29-Jun-16 23:13:10

I wonder what the weather is like over there in cloud cuckoo land! So he thinks we should negotiate for a Norway style set up, benefiting from access to the single market but while still retaining full control of immigration and doing it all on our own terms?? Dream on!

bakeoffcake Wed 29-Jun-16 23:14:50

No, not looking on the blackside.

Just being realistic and not a fantasist.

vichill Wed 29-Jun-16 23:18:14

have we left already?

ImperialBlether Wed 29-Jun-16 23:19:44

That's the funniest thing I've heard. If this folly goes ahead, we'll certainly be in the history books, but not for those reasons.

trixymalixy Wed 29-Jun-16 23:22:29

Ha ha ha! Agree with Imperial.

I really hope for everyone's sake to be proved wrong.

MotherOfBleach Wed 29-Jun-16 23:23:49

Norway-style model with significant extra powers over migration

I hate to break this to him, but the EU have already made it very clear that they will not agree to this.

There's no access to the single market without free movement of people.

Norway also have to pay into the EU, abide by most of it's laws but don't get a say in what those laws are. Which would leave us significantly worse off than we were before.

PhilPhilConnors Wed 29-Jun-16 23:25:24

History will thank us because we will be an era they look back at and analyse what the fuck we were thinking. hmm

trixymalixy Wed 29-Jun-16 23:27:23

It'll be shown in one of those break the chain history programmes where they point out all the points at which it could have been halted before disaster struck.

Brokenbiscuit Wed 29-Jun-16 23:41:30

It'll be shown in one of those break the chain history programmes where they point out all the points at which it could have been halted before disaster struck.

Yes, quite. I keep thinking of the parallels with some of the history I did at school. I don't think it will end well, and I think history will judge us harshly.

ImperialBlether Wed 29-Jun-16 23:52:23

It'll be known as the Isolationist Era.

GlassBrexiteer Wed 29-Jun-16 23:53:01

war famine pestilence and death, we're all doomed

Backingvocals Wed 29-Jun-16 23:53:22

I would be very happy to be positive if anyone could show me how this will work. But no one has set out a coherent plan of how this could possibly work - how we can get all we want from the EU and not have any of the bits we don't want.

Your post OP is just rhetoric. What you think is available to us is simply not available to us so this is all just wishful thinking. Although if you have a plan whereby we become Norway without the free movement bit and the EU nods it through then do share it.

GlassBrexiteer Wed 29-Jun-16 23:53:56

brexit is like a giant meteorite hitting the earth wiping out all life

BlunderWomansCat Thu 30-Jun-16 00:15:48

David Icke would agree with you.

BlunderWomansCat Thu 30-Jun-16 00:16:15

That's to the op.

WaitroseTrolley Thu 30-Jun-16 00:19:39

Omg guys, you're going to talk us into recession -

WaitroseTrolley Thu 30-Jun-16 00:22:50

backingvocals if you listen to this programme, a lawyer states how if we ended up with the Norway model we would have the power to say no to any trade laws the EU wanted to impose, which we can't at the moment. We would also be exempt from fisheries and agriculture. I've posted this on several threads, so sorry if you've seen it before. Searching for any chinks of light I can find I'm afraid.

winkywinkola Thu 30-Jun-16 00:25:41

Did Katy Hopkins wrote the op?

I think we have some really dark times ahead. I hope they won't last long. I suspect they will.

We didn't have to put ourselves through this.

But it will be okay. Not as good as it could have been but better than Albania. For example.

GlassBrexiteer Thu 30-Jun-16 00:29:24

it's clear that the doom mongers want to talk us into recession so that they can have the pleasure of saying 'I told you so'

winkywinkola Thu 30-Jun-16 00:38:04

Oh for goodness sake. How can we be talked into a recession? I think everyone just wants the best for Britain.

I get the feeling if a recession happens, leavers will say it's all the Remainers fault because they dared speak of it.

So we find another scapegoat.

WaitroseTrolley Thu 30-Jun-16 00:43:29

winky just to clarify, they're aren't my words, they're Martin Lewis's.

BMW6 Thu 30-Jun-16 00:44:20

The way I see it I am not looking at a short term recovery - if it takes 3 months, 3 years, 30 years or 300 years I believe this was a principle to stand up for. Self Governance. Especially as we were conned into the EU via the Common Market.

We should have been asked before Maastricht was signed in 1992. We were not asked because it would have been a resounding NO imo.
Well I've been waiting since 1992 to have my voice heard.
Carpe diem.

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