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Have Boris and Jeremy been stabbed in the back? Please can we have some leaders?

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RedToothBrush Wed 29-Jun-16 16:48:00

And another thread about antics of President Boris and Comrade Jeremy and all their friends. Previous thread 1 Previous thread 2

Can we laugh or cry yet?

Are you still sane?

Will this insanity ever end?

MrsLupo Wed 29-Jun-16 16:51:09

Thanks Red

PlatoTheGreat Wed 29-Jun-16 16:51:10

Settling down.

Murdoch always has an issue with Johnson.

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 16:52:25

I tell you what. I'm kind of looking forward to Great British Bake Off. Someone tell me when that starts. grin I'll need it by then!

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 16:53:11

More than 200 Scottish Labour activists urge Corbyn to go
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200+ Scottish Labour Members, including senior activists and councillors, sign letter calling for Corbyn to go
4:17 PM - 29 Jun 2016

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 16:54:11

And check this out, just as an interesting side note:

Australian Republican Movement
Party dedicated to separating from Britain · 26 June at 08:00 ·
"Britain's surprise vote to leave the European Union has renewed calls for Australia to become a republic, with many Aussies taking to social media to urge a break with the UK."

YourPerception Wed 29-Jun-16 16:59:11

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BritBrit Wed 29-Jun-16 17:01:21

I am still expecting Boris Johnson to be elected PM & I think if Corbyn insists on staying he would win a vote among Labour members

MitzyLeFrouf Wed 29-Jun-16 17:02:22

I love the idea of a new party!

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 17:03:17

The stubborn person in me that is appalled at how the Labour MPs are behaving wants Corbyn to stay. I know, not very realistic, but it's so childish the way they handled it - like a bunch of playground bullies.

Hamishandthefoxes Wed 29-Jun-16 17:06:27

I quite like the idea of a new SDP..., it was touted in the telegraph yesterday as a good thing. A gathering of those MPs who are against Brexit.

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 17:06:28

Someone's mentioned on another thread that Corbyn could have rules changed so that in another leadership vote, nobody that wasn't supportive of him would be allowed to be put forward for leader? This is not something I've heard of before. Anyone know about this?

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 17:07:13

Re Tim Farron:

Mr Farron has commtted the Lib Dems to continuing to campaign for the UK's membership of the EU, even though he accepts on the "current trajectory" the UK is set to leave.

He says it is possible to respect the referendum result but to continue to argue for a different position.

Fourormore Wed 29-Jun-16 17:07:22

Tim Fallon - who will ignore the EU ref result - wants to join up with those betraying Corbyn?

chantico Wed 29-Jun-16 17:09:03

The new party that I think is most likely to emerge is a new working class party, made up of the disaffected Labour 'Leave' voters, plus other 'Leave' voters who simply do not feel they have a voice.

Most of current PLP could rapidly become irrelevant.

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 17:10:22

Even in their current disarray, the Tories must be rubbing their hands together with glee at the Labour chaos.

MrsLupo Wed 29-Jun-16 17:11:19

in another leadership vote, nobody that wasn't supportive of him would be allowed to be put forward for leader

I think I must be missing something here - why would anyone who was supportive of a leader stand against them at all?

Just listening to Red Ken speaking up for him, which is probably the last nail in his coffin!

JamieVardysParty Wed 29-Jun-16 17:14:13

I can see that happening chant. Some sort of nationalist type party that's more left leaning.

LurkingHusband Wed 29-Jun-16 17:24:05


GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 17:24:49

MrsLupo well, quite. That's why I was puzzled.

GingerIvy Wed 29-Jun-16 17:25:38

Here... this is the post.

If JC fails to secure the support of the PLP after a Leadership contest, then there will be no effective opposition in parliament; he may not even be able to form a shadow cabinet.

He has already said that if he wins a leadership contest, he will "change the rules" and prevent MPs who have voted against him from standing in the next General Election - which might be as soon as October. Local Labour Party branches will be required to choose candidates who are supportive of JC but who may not be effective as candidates , won't secure the votes of the wider electorate, so the Labour majority in parliament may well reduce.

InShockReally Wed 29-Jun-16 17:27:35

Just marking place really. Thanks for letting me listen in and ask inane questions now and then.

RedToothBrush Wed 29-Jun-16 17:29:38

face palm

Jeremy is making it worse by the second.

Won't someone think of the children?

Showmethewaytogohome Wed 29-Jun-16 17:30:05

Changing the rules - does he think he is in the Kremlin @1970?

Can he not see he is going mad running a party of one (plus Dianne Abbot)

LurkingHusband Wed 29-Jun-16 17:30:28

Just for anyone of any importance who may be reading (curious to speculate what part MN played in all this).

While I have sort of pledged to myself to never vote Labour (or Tory) again (I've voted for everyone since I could smile) then a LibDem-Labour rump party could quite easily snare my vote (and I suspect MrsLHs).

Radical solutions are called for.

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