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If you voted leave, do you realise how much you've been lied to yet...

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JapanNextYear Tue 28-Jun-16 07:28:13

....and how angry are you?

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/one-thing-we-learnt-from-boris-johnsons-column-today-and-8-things-we-didnt--WJf7NUCpCNZ

Lighteningirll Tue 28-Jun-16 07:32:32

No I'm perfectly happy with my choice, do you realise how manipulative Project Fear was yet?

WordGetsAround Tue 28-Jun-16 07:36:30

Watched all the fall out over the last few days and thought really hard about my vote. Still couldn't be happier with my Leave vote. Definitely the right thing to do and would do the same again.

DancingDinosaur Tue 28-Jun-16 07:36:53

Well you've got to at least pretend to be happy with it really. Or look pretty stupid

sooperdooper Tue 28-Jun-16 07:37:21

You can call it 'Project fear' all you like but the financial instability and cutting the UKs credit rating is incredibly real and happening right now, no scaremongering just facts

LumpySpacedPrincess Tue 28-Jun-16 07:37:23

More lies will be told to justify their actions,and they will suck them up too.

InShockReally Tue 28-Jun-16 07:38:09

Lightening, you keep citing "Project Fear" and then ignoring everyone who tells you legitimate reasons why they're afraid. What's your block on this stuff?

Are you really that deluded that you can't see anything to worry about? Or you think that dismissing those who are (including "leave" voters who didn't appreciate the enormity of their decision) will fix it all?

Yes some "Leave" voters researched and had legitimate concerns, but on the whole, the leave campaign was the one run popularly on fear: fear of immigrants, and that fear isn't going to be assuaged anytime soon.

LumpySpacedPrincess Tue 28-Jun-16 07:38:20

Project Fear is now just Reporting Events sadly.

meditrina Tue 28-Jun-16 07:38:34

Project Fear is moving to Project Doom and Project Dupe.

I did not vote Leave, but am utterly dismayed and embarrassed at the attempts to argue with the outcome.

WordGetsAround Tue 28-Jun-16 07:38:45

I don't think I look stupid at all. Is that all 17 million of us?

LurcioAgain Tue 28-Jun-16 07:43:06

Nope- I voted leave for constitutional reasons. Boris' proposal would be the perfect result as far as I'm concerned: free trade, free movement (I think immigration is a good thing) but without the political integration.

OohMavis Tue 28-Jun-16 07:43:57

Every leave voter I've spoken to is a ray of optimism and light.

"What about the coming recession?"
"It'll be fine!"
"But recession hits the poor and vulnerable hardest."
"They'll be ffffiiiiiinnnee"
"So you're not worried at all?"
"YAY BRITAIN"

DancingDinosaur Tue 28-Jun-16 07:45:15

I don't think I look stupid at all. Is that all 17 million of us?

Depends what the rest of the 17 million have to say on the matter.

Lighteningirll Tue 28-Jun-16 07:46:22

The poorest and most vulnerable have already been hit the hardest that's why they voted Leave.

Zorion Tue 28-Jun-16 07:47:42

If it wasn't so real it would be quite amusing.

la-la-la-not-listening-la-la-la

Whilst people are losing their jobs (they must all be the liars, according to another thread, can't possibly be that nice man Mr.Gove and Mr.Farage who lied about it), the economy is crashing around us (Boris: pound very strong!) and there has been a 57% rise in racism reported (no, nothing to do with us, as WE aren't racist). hmm

BlackeyedSusan Tue 28-Jun-16 07:48:44

as alwayys, there are a range of reasons for why people voted. some voted because they knew there might be economic consequences but leaving europe was better, others voted because they liked the idea of independence without thinking much about the consequences or thinking it would not happen to them, or it was already shit for them or it would be better for them.

sure it was the same for remainers. some voted after researching. some just voted based on what someone else said without researching.

there is always spin at election time. no party /side is free of it

no-one knows how the other option would have turned out.

JE678 Tue 28-Jun-16 07:49:10

This has become ridiculous. We are watching the predictions of so called Projecy Fear coming true and they still can't see it. I think this has become a matter of pride for many people, to admit they can see what's happening would be to admit they were wrong which isn't going to happen. Keep burying your head in the sand, the largest group of Leave voters will be hardest hit.

GreenishMe Tue 28-Jun-16 07:49:16

Depends what the rest of the 17 million have to say on the matter.

...as if you give a fuck about what anyone but yourselves have to say hmm

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp Tue 28-Jun-16 07:50:43

What's actually happened so far then?

The poorest and most vulnerable have already been hit the hardest that's why they voted Leave

To enjoy some more cuts?

Zorion Tue 28-Jun-16 07:56:07

The poorest and most vulnerable have already been hit the hardest that's why they voted Leave

Turkeys.... Christmas..

They were hit by Tory cuts. They have condemned themselves (and the rest of us) to a tory future. They've cut off Scotland, the strongest protection against the tories, and the EU, which protected their workers rights.

Careful with that superlative, you'll need it by the time the economy has crashed as low as it can go.

DiggersRest Tue 28-Jun-16 07:56:24

Bank shares have been suspended. That's pretty big! Losing AAA rating, huge. And that's before we're even out.

The threads we'll see on here shortly how the poor have been fucked over, etc will be sad. Those reliant on benefits (even just 'top ups') should be concerned.

This optimism is good. But l think ultimately useless.

rosie1959 Tue 28-Jun-16 07:57:31

What's actually happened so far ?
Well I am no expert but the financial markets crashing and the pound dropping like a stone can't be good can it ?

Helmetbymidnight Tue 28-Jun-16 07:59:57

The poorest and most vulnerable have already been hit the hardest that's why they voted Leave.

They haven't seen anything yet. sad

What's actually happened so far then?

It's bizarre that you don't know.

Oh well - 'it'll all be fine'.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/27/project-betrayal-victims-boris-johnson-jeremy-corbyn

Zorion Tue 28-Jun-16 08:02:12

mumontherun

Every month I pay 1000 euros into my bank account in Britain (I am getting out of debt and trying to save for a deposit)

Last July, that 1000 euros was £695. The day before Brexit it was £761. Now it is £831. Imagine that on a global scale, but in the other direction.

You don't need to be an economist or an expert to work out that this is bad for everyone. Because without money at the top, there isn't money at the bottom.

There is a thread on here about real job losses. Ask those people what has actually happened.

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