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Jeremy Corbyn voted Leave?

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A11TheSmallTh1ngs Mon 27-Jun-16 13:25:14

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-refused-to-confirm-he-voted-remain-at-eu-referendum-claims-chris-bryant_uk_5770ff1fe4b0d2571149f599?edition=uk

A cabinet member asked him if he voted Remain and he refused to answer. If this is true, he needs to step down. He is not principled, he is a liar.

iammamam Mon 27-Jun-16 13:26:41

If he's a liar would he not have just said he voted remain?

ConfuciousSayWhat Mon 27-Jun-16 13:27:10

As much as I loathe jeremy Corbyn it used to be considered extremely rude to ask someone how they voted

BreconBeBuggered Mon 27-Jun-16 13:28:29

If he were a liar, he'd say what was expedient at the time, surely? My own MP refuses to say which way they voted, and so far most people have retreated when told it's not their business.

treaclesoda Mon 27-Jun-16 13:29:18

Isn't voting confidential? I don't even ask my husband how he votes. I mean, I think I know, because we have similar views but I have never asked 'so how did you vote?'. I'm quite happy to share my political views if anyone wants to discuss politics but I would never answer if someone asked me outright how I voted.

treaclesoda Mon 27-Jun-16 13:30:28

Now, obviously I'm not the leader of a political party, but what I was trying to say is that I don't think the right to confidentiality should disappear just because you are in politics.

EightNoineTen Mon 27-Jun-16 13:31:28

I have suspected that JC wanted us to leave. I'd forgotten politicians could vote blush but I guess he probably did. I don't think he should step down for this reason though. He should step down because he isn't a very good leader, his MPs are resigning left, right and centre including the amazing Jess Phillips.

BeingHuman Mon 27-Jun-16 13:33:16

What is with the political witch hunt lately.

Some people thing voting is a private affair, and after the dramas of this week, I wish it was a view more people kept

loobyloo1234 Mon 27-Jun-16 13:33:30

JC was and is clearly a euro-sceptic. That is why he lost his Labour voters though - campaigning for Remain, but everyone deep down knew he didn't believe in the EU hmm No wonder they were confused

ZansForCans Mon 27-Jun-16 13:34:23

Oh FGS Jeremy. He really doesn't have much of a grasp of political behaviour does he? Yes it's rude to ask but in his situation it's to be expected – if he was going to secretly vote leave he could at least have practiced saying "Yes of course I voted remain!" in the mirror hmm

Yes that would be lying but if he's been pretending to be on the Remain side he was lying anyway. I'm not saying it's good that politicians lie but I do find it weird how he behaves - principles a-go-go meaning he has to cause offence left right and centre, then nothing much to say when pressed.

The man may be a nice bloke but he seems to have no clue he's actually in the public eye and expected to put on some kind of a show.

ZansForCans Mon 27-Jun-16 13:44:21

Of course voting is private but it kind of is news when someone who was officially promoting remain won't admit to voting remain!

DangerousBeanz Mon 27-Jun-16 13:49:34

In this tweet he stated he'd voted to remain.
twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/745886722987294720
He doesn't need to keep justifying himself or repeating himself

Topseyt Mon 27-Jun-16 13:49:43

What would be the betting that Boris Johnson might have voted remain?

Savemefromwine Mon 27-Jun-16 13:49:53

Who cares how he voted. Half the shadow cabinet has left him and he's surrounded by the ludicrously inept Emily Thornbury and the self serving self promoting hypocritical idiot Dianne Abbotts.

He's toast.

sandrabedminster Mon 27-Jun-16 13:53:45

Of course he did.

He's always been anti EU being a leftie.

ZansForCans Mon 27-Jun-16 13:54:24

Ha if BoJo voted remain what a farce. Maybe they just cancelled each other out. (Literally as well as politically)

OnTheTurningAway Mon 27-Jun-16 13:56:48

Zans The man may be a nice bloke but he seems to have no clue he's actually in the public eye and expected to put on some kind of a show.

This is so depressing. You're not wrong, but isn't just symptomatic of all that is wrong with politics? Why can't he just be a nice bloke trying to solve problems? Prinicples, you say? Tut tut!

A11TheSmallTh1ngs Mon 27-Jun-16 14:02:15

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-allies-sabotaged-labour-in-campaign-and-fuelled-brexit_uk_576eb1b5e4b0d2571149bb1f

^

All the information on how Corbyn sabotaged the Remain campaign.

KnackeredDumpling Mon 27-Jun-16 14:02:31

Jesus, I'm not a fan of JC particularly but he is being destroyed by his party.

He put on Twitter that he voted leave. He was being asked how he voted by one of his is cabinet members - presumably in an antagonistic way - and now there's an article that he didn't answer.

What are Labour playing at? Why are they not being a strong, ynited opposition instead of a load of self-serving, cannibalistic headless chickens.

WannaBe Mon 27-Jun-16 14:03:44

The fact that nineteen members of the shadow cabinet have now resigned is reason enough to think he should step down.

Voting, whoever you are, is a private matter. Even if you are representing the other side and do so he is still entitled to vote however he wants and is not obliged to divulge what he voted for.

ZansForCans Mon 27-Jun-16 14:04:11

Actually to clarify, I do think principles are important and I had high hopes for Corbyn to start with – but an awareness of your audience and having the ability to make resounding statements is also important if you're leader of the opposition. You can be principled and rhetorical. Cameron and Osborne - and even more so fecking BoJo and Gove - are an absolute gift for a leader of the opposition to stand up and skewer them with some well chosen words. They don't have to be untrue words - just well put together and rousing.

In this case, I think if Corbyn is secretly anti-EU then he needs to grasp that he should either come out and do what he believes in, or keep it secret and go with the facade. It's the mealy mouthed inability to just be a public figure, pick a stance and have something to say that is doing my head in.

Of course I would rather have a passionate, principled AND vocal labour leader. Jo Cox was that kind of person, it is possible.

Yes he's toast anyway but I'm just venting.

diaimchlo Mon 27-Jun-16 14:10:34

He really doesn't have much of a grasp of political behaviour does he?

Well if political behaviour is going back on the majority of promises made to get votes, giving false information, targeting the vulnerable of society and causing class divides I am really glad he doesn't have a grasp.

I am getting fed up of all the comments regarding his appearance, just because he doesn't buy his suits from Saville Row does not make him any less of effective party leader.

Those who have been sacked and jumped ship have been baying for his blood and have been since he was elected by a very large majority. It is them that need to think about whether they actually have the same ideals as the Labour membership.

IMHO I would much prefer a leader with a heart rather than a swinging brick.

ZansForCans Mon 27-Jun-16 14:18:55

Yes, but rhetoric and a public presence do matter. They don't mean you have to be a cynical empty-hearted schemer. He (or someone) could have principles and be able to stand up and speak about them eloquently and meaningfully.

I have no beef with how he dresses and i didn't even mention that. It's not about that, but it is about being a figurehead and having something to say loud and proud.

TanTanNubuck Mon 27-Jun-16 14:19:04

Knackered he tweeted that he voted Remain. I saw the tweet as he tweeted it.
Where did you see him tweet that he voted leave? confused

KnackeredDumpling Mon 27-Jun-16 14:20:55

SHIT!!! I'm so sorry Tan I meant that he voted to remain!

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