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Can we have an EU referendum for dummies please?

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viviennewestood Fri 24-Jun-16 13:43:53

As much as I try, I'm embarrassed to say that I can't grasp an understanding of what leaving the EU means for us now. Can someone provide a few very basic points on the advantages and disadvantages? Am I the only one feeling a bit uneducated about the whole thing?

sleepwhenidie Fri 24-Jun-16 13:45:43

At the risk of sounding harsh..there's no need to be embarrassed about not understanding the implications but you ask for clarification now confused? Dare I ask if you voted?

MaryPoppinsPenguins Fri 24-Jun-16 13:47:02

We just did, didn't we? hmm

ThereIsIron Fri 24-Jun-16 14:01:17

-- I'm embarrassed to say that I can't grasp an understanding of what leaving the EU means for us now--

It's OK ... the Leave campaign don't actually know either yet.

Pangurban1 Fri 24-Jun-16 14:03:03

I don't think anyone knows what it means. As far as I can see there is no plan. Many disparate groups talking about many different set ups. Mutually exclusive set ups or variations therein which may not even be possible or allowed. Free movement of people, single market or not.

I think this morning Dan Hannan said that immigration wouldn't go down. The 350million quid is now an error and therefore not going to the NHS. I imagine the future issues of trying to privatise education with academies (i know some backtrack on that) and encroaching privatisation of elements of the NHS will surprise as these problems are the fault of the EU, aren't they? Dan Hannan was trotting the globe saying how awful the NHS is and a disaster from beginning to end.

Look at the selection of beauties who could be leading and forming a gov't. Renowned for their previous interest in public services and social needs. Not.

Good spin people and they managed the voting populace very well. Even got many leave voters to think it was even in their own interests.

I must admit it was probably a good idea to stop listening to Steve Hilton when he admitted he used to lie in his previous job, so he knows what he is talking about.

viviennewestood Fri 24-Jun-16 15:48:16

Yes I did vote. I just wasn't expecting this result and I'm not sure what it all means.

BreakingDad77 Fri 24-Jun-16 16:25:32

Well we in flux now - DC has thrown hat in which may surprise some but I'm not tbh.

So now we have to decide how long before we trigger article 50, please don't believe people when they say we can start talks before that. In the mean time the current government needs to decide if they want to be the ones cutting the brexit deal or have a general election - again more time.

Next decison is wether we want to get a deal like switzerland or be out-out. Dont believe dreams about getting a free trade without free movement this will just get vetoed (yes vetos -shock) by eastern european countries. in this time we would also need to sort out the status of the 2.2 million brits in europe as to how they are dealt with, and also any euro people here. If the economy tanks a bit then there will be less pull and hence less migrants so government will be able to call it a 'success'.

It would be rubbish for tories to be making the brexit deal and the two year negotiating period to expire (can only be extended if every nation agrees, those dam vetos that leave kept telling us we didn't have ;) and then we have a new party which has to deliver them.

Depending on the deals cut will directly affect wether international companies want to stay in the UK as out of Europe they would need to set up separate businesses i believe in and out of eurozone. Of course financial (Uk is the biggest in the world - but now for how long?) and scientific industry will take a big hit as companies relocate to eurozone and or jobs just cease to exist.

No deal means reverting to standard WTO rules, so some price increase.

Mrsmorton Fri 24-Jun-16 16:34:53

Please say you didn't vote to leave..?

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