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EU Commission President Juncker says a remain vote means no reform in the future

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BritBrit Wed 22-Jun-16 16:51:21

Juncker has said if we vote to stay in the EU there will be no reform in the future ever, David Cameron's 'deal' is it & nothing more will change

The remain campaign keep saying there will be more reform in the future & they want to look at free movement, it will never happen

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-reform-uk-brexit-vote-live-remain-jean-claude-juncker-european-union-a7095601.html

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/682361/EU-referendum-Brussels-Jean-Claude-Juncker-David-Cameron-no-more-reform-Remain

meditrina Wed 22-Jun-16 22:18:56

There's bound be change and reform over time.

Because there has been change after change after change over the whole history of EEC (the organisation the last referendum was about, and which the current EU bears little resemblance to) so why would it stop now?

It's all bluster.

Mistigri Wed 22-Jun-16 22:40:05

He didn't say that, of course.

He did say that further negotiation over the concessions already agreed was not on the cards.

But future reform is perfectly possible if there is the political will among the national governments of EU states. It may be that a narrow in vote will catalyse that process - I certainly hope so.

Brokenbiscuit Wed 22-Jun-16 22:46:35

Yet another statement that the Leave campaign has deliberately chosen to misunderstand.

Juncker was saying that we couldn't use a leave vote to negotiate a better deal for the UK for a second referendum. He was not talking about the likelihood of reforms of the EU in the event we decide to remain.

glassgarden Wed 22-Jun-16 23:05:56

He was not talking about the likelihood of reforms of the EU in the event we decide to remain

how do you know?
I'd say his remarks were deliberately ambiguous,

if that is the case then why not say that if we stay renegotiation may happen?

glassgarden Wed 22-Jun-16 23:07:14

or perhaps you think that politicians always give it to us straight?

Brokenbiscuit Wed 22-Jun-16 23:15:07

how do you know? I'd say his remarks were deliberately ambiguous

What would "out is out" mean in the context of a remain vote?

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