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Guess who said Europe's glory days are at an end?

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claig Sat 18-Jun-16 20:45:51

"Europe's glory days at an end, warns Juncker

The European Union faces an age of comparative economic decline, while the 'love' affair' of integration is at risk, says Jean-Claude Juncker "

If you guessed Farage, then you may well be right, but it was actually Juncker.

Cameron tells us to trust the "experts", but is anyone more of an expert on the EU than Juncker?

shinytorch2 Sat 18-Jun-16 20:54:57

Interesting article Claig. With an ageing population and 40-50% youth unemployment in Southern Europe you do wonder what Juncker's plan is to get growth going again and away debt reduced. The whole thing is a mess.

Ouriana Sat 18-Jun-16 21:50:12

80% of growth is from countries outside Europe

Yet according to the Remain side, by not trading with these and instead focusing on free trade within the EU we will be financially safer.

I dont understand econmics so Im a bit fucking confused.

claig Sat 18-Jun-16 21:54:05

'I dont understand econmics so Im a bit fucking confused.'

I think that is true of the Remain side too.

Ouriana Sat 18-Jun-16 21:59:13


fourmummy Sat 18-Jun-16 22:09:39

What did he say that for just a few days before the vote? Has he been at the sauce again or something altogether more malevolent? Damn, I need to stop seeing ulterior motives in everything. They just make it so easy!

claig Sat 18-Jun-16 22:11:32

I think he said it last year and the political class are trying to keep what he said quiet. When asked they are probably all saying "no comment".

claig Sat 18-Jun-16 22:13:54

The report was on Oct 22 2015. Very recent

YourPerception Sat 18-Jun-16 22:53:04

You did dig for that though.

claig Sat 18-Jun-16 23:15:53

'You did dig for that though.'

No, I googled Juncker to see if he was former Goldman Sachs like so many of the others, but he isn't. However, that article came up and appears to have been kept quiet by lots on the Remain side.

fourmummy Sat 18-Jun-16 23:27:12

The man is an absolute liability even if he isn't GS. What possessed anyone to shoehorn him into that position, we'll never know. He is quite entertaining, though, in a Bob Geldof/Gordon Brown's lovechild-type way.

fourmummy Mon 20-Jun-16 15:18:55

Just been thinking about this further. How bad do things have to get before people will listen, as in, what would the President of the European Commission have to say before people think, "Crikey, that's pretty bad". It's something that's been fascinating to me throughout this whole thing. Some pretty high-up people actually tell us to our fsces that they lie, cheat, ignore, disparage and (some) people still ignore it. What's the motivation for this?

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