Ah, you mentioned the "A" word Wendy. So it's good, much better than Ecover (not hard, I might as well have washed dd's trews in a mud solution ), but notasgood as Ariel Sensitive, alas. We do have a Co-op so I might give SW a try after such glowing reviews and see how we get on. The dcs don't tend to trash their schooliforms like they used to, although ds appears to have brushed his sweatshirt as well as his teeth with Colgate this morning. Thanks!