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What would you do with an elephant tusk?

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pintaloosa · 20/08/2011 09:03

DH has a 7 inch ivory elephant tusk tip, it was originally mounted on a metal stand and intended as an ornament (nice).

He aquired it from his grandparents who lived in Africa in the 1920s, so it is from an elephant that died many decades ago, but all I can think of is the collapsed carcass of the elephant that was killed for it's ivory. I want it out of the house.

Just throwing it away seems disrespectful to the elephant somehow..

Obviously I don't want to sell it, even if it were legal, I don't want money from it.

Have considered giving it a burial (sounds loony, I know), but wondered if any conservation or educational organisation could use it?

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SoupDragon · 20/08/2011 09:06

you could sell it, if it is legal to do so, and donate the money to an elephant conservation charity.

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CaptainMartinCrieff · 20/08/2011 09:08

It is legal to sell if over a certain age. Sell it and donate the money.

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fivegomadindorset · 20/08/2011 09:08

What Soupdragon said, it is only modern poached ivory that is illegal to sell.

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pintaloosa · 20/08/2011 09:13

Ah, that's a great idea soup, but I did a quick google and it seems like to sell it I need documentation that it predates 1947, i don't have that Sad

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SoupDragon · 20/08/2011 09:19

Contact a local auction house and give them the whole story. See what they say.

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SoupDragon · 20/08/2011 09:20

There must be lots of old ivory which has no documentation because none was needed at the time.

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SuePurblybilt · 20/08/2011 09:21

I would really not sell it - it seems to me that making something desirable in the marketplace (as it were) is only likely to increase poaching.

I would offer it to a local zoo or museum as a curiosity/educational tool, on the condition it is not sold on.

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pintaloosa · 20/08/2011 09:27

Sue, that was sort of my feeling, if I sell it that makes me an ivory trader, even if I give the money away. Might try the zoo.

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SuePurblybilt · 20/08/2011 09:29

I would say the zoo would be a good place to start, they could hopefully advise. If they're no help, email the Natural History Museum praps, ask for advice?

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mousymouse · 20/08/2011 09:38

you could give it to piano makers/workshops. they sometimes need ivory to replace keys.

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ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs · 20/08/2011 09:44

Give it to a local museum?
Replace your DHs elephant thing with a ring or bracelet made of elephant hair.

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SuePurblybilt · 20/08/2011 09:49
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SoupDragon · 20/08/2011 09:51

To look at another way, selling it and donating the money to an elephant charity does some actual good and, by virtue of being old ivory, is one less bit of demand for new ivory.

what does your DH think, given that it is his?

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ggirl · 20/08/2011 09:52

I have a very thick ivory bracelet my father brought back from Africa in the 60's. Tis beautiful until you realise it's ivory.

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pintaloosa · 20/08/2011 09:54

DH doesn't mind me disposing of it.

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SuePurblybilt · 20/08/2011 10:04

I'll have to disagree there Soup, it is said to be more likely to led to an increase in new ivory made to look like old ivory. The idea is to stop all trading in exotic animal parts, new or old, to reduce desirability and keep the stigma current.

IFAW report here

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Scaevola · 20/08/2011 11:24

DEFRA is in charge of CITES protection in UK. The CITES FAQs page of their website says:

"If you obtained the specimen a long while ago, or you have inherited it, you may not be able to prove the date you acquired it.  Please contact us, as we may be able to suggest ways in which its acquisition date can be determined.  For example, it is possible for experts to give an approximate date which will be good enough for us to be able to determine if it pre-dates its listing on CITES, or whether it meets the antiques derogation."

This would clear up whether you could legally sell it (sounds as if you should be able to). I'd sell and donate. Otherwise, burial or cremation?

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