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Suspension from work - part 2

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applecrumbleandcream Thu 12-Apr-12 17:51:15

Thanks everyone, just catching up. Not feeling too good today. A bit grim. Not feeling strong at all but emotional and very sad. Been to the doctors again and just broke down completely, he wants to sign me off but I told him that I just want to get all this over with. He has wrote me a statement whilst I was there blubbering for me to send to the Investigator to say that I am not currently well enough to complete this work. I even had the doctor crying and saying he despairs that employers are doing this. I told him I have got no confidence in the unison rep. I spoke to him this morning to ask his advice about filling in this statement when it doesn't list my computer and what should I do, he was very sharp said if I don't do as I am asked then it is going to go to a Hearing and then said he was in a meeting and just cut me off!!!

My dad has said he will get me the best lawyer there is and forget about Unison, just wondering what to do about this. Have to go back to doctors again next Thursday. He is compiling a proper medical statement for me.

I'm sorry if none of this makes sense, but I can't think straight at the moment. sad

JulesJules Thu 12-Apr-12 17:55:26

Oh Apple sad

We are all still here, rooting for you ((((hugs))))

SauvignonBlanche Thu 12-Apr-12 17:56:04

I'm sorry to hear your union rep is being so unsupportive, you asked a pretty relevant question.
Can you contact your regional office and ask for someone else?

Groovee Thu 12-Apr-12 17:56:41

Oh Apple (((hugs))))

SweetTheSting Thu 12-Apr-12 17:57:22

Oh no poor you, thinking of you

<lurker on your other thread>

JulesJules Thu 12-Apr-12 17:58:57

Apple's previous thread is here

SophieNeveau Thu 12-Apr-12 17:59:42

marking my place

RabidAnchovy Thu 12-Apr-12 17:59:55

Marking place

msrisotto Thu 12-Apr-12 18:02:11

Oh Apple i'm sorry. The Unison rep sounded shit, is there another rep who can support you? Sounds like you have a nice GP and Dad to lean on though.

God they're fuckers for doing this to you, such shitty behaviour. You're in the right, you know you are. Take some comfort in that and be angry rather than upset (hugs).

skirt Thu 12-Apr-12 18:02:33

What a crock of crap for you. Is your rep an employee of the Trust or a full time unison employee? Can you swap to a F/T rep?

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere Thu 12-Apr-12 18:02:43

poor you sad
hang on, it will get better.

SunflowersSmile Thu 12-Apr-12 18:05:19

I have been lurking on your previous thread. Surely on a lot of the stuff they have asked you to check you can basically put a line through it with side remarks 'not in office that day' / 'not my computer', etc.
However they are treating you very badly and your union rep needs a kick up the arse. They are making you ill and I hope that they realise they have cocked up big time.
Glad you have the support of your Dad and your doctor.
You take care.

Botticelli Thu 12-Apr-12 18:06:38

I'm sure you'll get good advice here very soon.
You are behaving very well.
Don't let them get you down.
Just remember you are the equal of them.
Concentrate on your health,and tell yourself your family loves you loads-your dad sounds great.

DaisySteiner Thu 12-Apr-12 18:09:46

Apple, you've done so, so well coping with all this. You're being so strong. I would be a total mess. This will all come to an end. It is just a job - easy for me to say, I know, but the main thing is that you have a loving family right beside you. You will get through this. And then you can kick their arses good.

Doyouthinktheysaurus Thu 12-Apr-12 18:10:49

Oh bless yousad

Just hang in there, keep reminding yourself that however hard this feels right've done nothing wrong and can maintain your dignity and self respect.

Your employer and unison rep on the other hand sound completely incompetent and crap.

namechangingagain Thu 12-Apr-12 18:13:28

Let your doctor sign you off.

Then you will have some breathing space.

Your own lawyer will cost a bomb - get hold of union regional office - tell them you are overwhelmed, cry a lot and ask for more help.

Tell them there are so many pieces of paper and inaccuracies that you don't know where to start.

EssentialFattyAcid Thu 12-Apr-12 18:14:38

You can get through this apple

Try to step back now and then try think of it as a game and plot your next moves. Your employer is holding some pretty crap cards here tbh. There is a game here that has to be played out now as a process has been started.

Although today was a bad day you got help from your GP which will probably also be very useful later on. Re getting a lawyer - do you have legal cover on your house insurance? Many people do. Then you could use this instead of using Unison if you wanted to.

Decide what you want to get at the end of this game and plot your moves with this in mind.

MummyPocPoc Thu 12-Apr-12 18:14:42

Apple did you contact your manager or investigating officer to say that you cannot complete this statement in the miniscule amount of time they have stipulated?

I'd ask for a change of union rep, this guy wasn't much help in the meeting, and is being a shit now. Aren't you important enough for him or something? Complain now. If you don't speak up, you won't be heard.

Tonight - [wine wine wine cos bloody hell you deserve it.

MummyPocPoc Thu 12-Apr-12 18:15:35

Also, why should your dad have to pay for a lawyer? If you win your case, will he still be landed with a hefty fee? You've paid your union fees long enough, you ought to get the service you've paid for IMO.

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Thu 12-Apr-12 18:16:36

apple I'm a Unison rep (for my sins, long story) if I can help at all PM me.

ToothbrushThief Thu 12-Apr-12 18:23:22

Sorry but your rep sounds crap sad

They cannot takes so long to 'investigate' and then expect such a short timescale for you. Do you have a work diary or roster or anything which will help you? Can colleagues help remind you -even if not allowed to talk to them -make notes of who might verify stuff

CointreauVersial Thu 12-Apr-12 18:23:30

Apple, stay strong, stay angry! You know you are in the right.

MadamFolly Thu 12-Apr-12 18:23:48

Was lurking on your previous thread and just want to add my support. Hope you feel better soon.

and to say that your employers are complete cuntbunglers

Bearcat Thu 12-Apr-12 18:27:31

Apple, Apple, Apple
You have done so well so far. You've got through your investigatory meeting and it sounds like its all a load of old cobblers.
Remember you are not the only one going through this ( I've been there for several months now, and still no news).
But I have and you will get stronger.
Can't say much really but use your lovely family, as I have for their love, fantastic support and help in putting your defence and case together.

<<Big Hug>>

StillSquiffy Thu 12-Apr-12 18:35:42

This is not yet the time for lawyers.

You need to take a deep breath and understand this is an admin issue. It isn't about you in the slightest.

BUT it does need to be dealt with, and the sooner you deal with it the sooner the weight will be lifted off your shoulders.

You need to write down that you are unable to address their issues until they give you an accurate list of queries. Add that you are concerned that you are being asked to explain logging in details that occurred on computers that were not yours and on days when you are not in the office. Obviously you cannot be expected to explain such matters given that you (a) did not log in on those other computers, (b) did not give your log-in details to anyone else, and (c) were not even present in the office on many of the days noted. Add that being put under suspicion for grounds that are still a complete mystery to you has caused you such concern that you have been in pieces since being suspended to the point that your GP has forbidden you to return to work, but that nevertheless you are keen to see this investigation completed as soon as possible so that such suspicion can be lifted and you can be cleared, and therefore you would like them to redraft their unanswered queries as soon as possible, making sure this time to eliminate all admin errors before representing it to you.

I would also add that you are somewhat concerned that your own feelings in all of this have been trodden all over, yet the company seems willing to bend over backwards to accommodate the upcoming vacation of one of the investigators to the point that it is willing to present a set of 'evidence' that even the most cursory of checks would have been shown to have been full of errors.

Send the letter in with your GP note.

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