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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 19:50

A few things really.

I have recently been rebanded and wondered if any one knows how i can find out about back pay, how far back, how much etc

Wanted to ask, do you feel that your job is safe?

How have the major cutbacks affected your role and dept?

Are you worried about the future?

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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 19:59

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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 20:55

are you all on nights then?

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lal123 · 01/05/2010 21:00

You should get your back pay automatically? Surely your employers would be the best people to ask? In menatime if you google Agenda for Change there's a website which can probably tell you most of what you need to know

In current times no job is safe

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LovelyDear · 01/05/2010 21:01

the cutbacks are only just beginning to affect my hosp. i think we will begin to see job cuts within a year or so.

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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 21:02

im waiting for the paperwork to come from hr and they mentioned backpay. never occured to me that i would get that!
So i am now curious and thrilled.
will check out the website thanks.

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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 21:05

its beyond belief isnt it.
i have worked in the nhs for 20 uears and never have i experienced nurses worried for their jobs, managers asking for money saving tips!!!

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Chandra · 01/05/2010 21:05

I have found the bands in the internet in the past, I think that if you open www.jobs.nhs.uk and then click on any job, instead of a salary you will get a band, and a link to the page were all the bands are listed.

I'm not working anymore for the NHS but what I found more worrying about the future when I was, was realising that I needed to work for them for 5 years to raise my salary in ÂŁ300 a year. My level of responsibility was not coherent with the salary I was receiving, and jobs in the NHS were paying about 25% or 30% less than jobs with the same specs outside of it.

Mind you, I was doing admin work, not sure about clinical staff.

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lal123 · 01/05/2010 21:06

think its backdated to when the original agreement was - so a few years now, possibly 2004? You could well be in for quite a nice windfall!

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stripeyknickersspottysocks · 01/05/2010 21:08

We're not allowed paper on our ward, makes discharges a bit hard as we can't print stuff out. Well we are allowed paper, but only so much per month.

We ran out of batteries recently and a paed was trying to use the light from the TV to examine a baby's eyes. In the end the dad went to Tesco and got some batteries for the opthalmascope.

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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 21:21

there was a suggestion that we provide our own pens, it would save a whole 70p per box of 20.

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MaisietheMorningsideCat · 01/05/2010 21:27

It is backdated to 2004 here, bringing you in line with whatever you should be on.

I feel safe enough at the moment, as we are a small, specialised team, but there are plenty of other departments being restructured with staff losing their jobs.The training budget has been slashed, which means less on-going professional development. This suits the short term, but in the longer term you runs the risk of having a seriously de-skilled workforce. We're each having to take a 10% cut in our individual budgets over and above CRES savings, and staff who leave aren't necessarily being replaced.

Anyone who thinks that public sector workers have it easy don't know what they're talking about, frankly.

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blinks · 01/05/2010 21:27

jeez stripey- that's shitty.

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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 21:30

when you say "training bidget" maisie, what does that mean? Is it courses etc or training staff? (like pd staff)

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meatntattypie · 01/05/2010 21:30

budget obviously meant budget not bidget, sorry

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lal123 · 01/05/2010 22:12

Training budget?? We haven't had a training budget for years! Our Board has a target of cutting 50 jobs a month to meet its savings targets etc

Meanntatty - what do you do in NHS? This sounds a bit like a trawl for a daily mail story!

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stripeyknickersspottysocks · 01/05/2010 23:06

Oh we have to provide our own pens, thermometers, stethascopes, tourniquets. I have had a shift where I've forgotten my thermometer so not bothered taking woman's temp (healthy woman in labour, I would argue she doesn't really need it doing but protocol says it should be done). Then got a bollocking on a notes audit for not having checked temp!

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stripeyknickersspottysocks · 01/05/2010 23:08

Does sound like a journo trawling. Can I sue if she quotes me without my permission?

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MaisietheMorningsideCat · 02/05/2010 09:47

I was going to explain what I meant, but agree with stripey - I sense a journo in our midst.

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meatntattypie · 02/05/2010 16:47

OMG ive NEVER been accused of being a journo and ive been called some things in my time! Thanks, you made my day!

Im a training sister in ICU/HDU.
The cost cutting thing has been threatened for a while but only now is it coming to the crunch.
We are faced with "re deploying" staff and savings where ever possible.
This didnt phase me at first because the wastage just drives me crazy and i thought it would be a great opportunity to put a stop to that in the 1st instance.

The reason i am interested in the "training budget" is because i work in training. We do not have a training budget. So this obviously means that I would be cut .

I am curious as to where this will end, and how it is impacting on other hospitals.

Not a journo, just a nurse, worried and a in a bit of a panic to be honest.

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agedknees · 02/05/2010 17:20

In my last hospital they got rid of most of the manual handling trainers. They where replaced by ward/department staff link nurses/admin staff.

It was just added to our jobs. We got no extra time to train staff and ended up doing it in our own time (the usual NHS stuff).

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stripeyknickersspottysocks · 02/05/2010 17:27

Quite a bit of our stuff is elearning now which we have to do in our own time. One year you have a proper trust madatory study day which covers manual handling, fire proceedures, child protection. The next year you do elearning and it alternates like that.

Otherwise I think our training budget is OK, mY manager is nudging me to do a masters which work will pay for. We normally seem to be able to do one course a year, or every other year. I've got a place on an ALSO course this year.

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mrstimlovejoy · 03/05/2010 19:47

regarding backpay don't hold your breath i've been waiting 12 months for backpay currently in the hands of unison.

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