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Is this taking a job under false pretenses?

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SnapD Sun 05-Jul-09 22:55:58

Someone applied for a job which needed training. Until they have the training they are an assistant.

They agreed that they would train & was offered the job.

2 weeks later they have said to the boss that they will not do the training & that they want to stay as an assistant.

What reaction would this person expect?

trixymalixy Sun 05-Jul-09 23:01:15

Is this a new job or a transfer/promotion within the same company.

If it is a new job then I would have thought that they would not pass the probationary period and would be dismissed.

I'm not sure what would happen in the other case.

SnapD Sun 05-Jul-09 23:07:25

New Job

That's what I thought

trixymalixy Sun 05-Jul-09 23:12:09

Is this you SnapD?

SnapD Sun 05-Jul-09 23:13:49


I'm the manager

& I am pissed off because I really like her

SnapD Sun 05-Jul-09 23:27:01

I am trying not to react - but to weigh up options

But tbh I don't need a 20hr assistant

trixymalixy Sun 05-Jul-09 23:28:48

I would be pissed off as well, it's really not a great start for her is it?

Do you think if she knew that the alternative is no job at all she would agree to do the training?

Is there an assistants position for her to fill?

Although TBH if she is taking the piss like that after only 2 weeks in the job it doesn't bode well for the future.

SnapD Sun 05-Jul-09 23:33:11

There isn't an assistant job (well there might be 3 or 4 hours a week)

Also she only wants to work 4 days not 5

She knows the training is required

I think I agree about it not boding well

Damn I'll have to keep her for a few weeks as I have people on leave but then I think she has to go sad

trixymalixy Sun 05-Jul-09 23:47:33

So she's been there 2 weeks and so far has said that she doesn't want to do the training that the job requires that she agreed to do and only wants to work 4 days rather than the 5 she agreed to when she took the job?

Sorry, but she is totally taking the piss. She sounds like the kind of person who will be calling in sick on Mondays and Fridays and rolling in half an hour late every day.

SnapD Sun 05-Jul-09 23:52:44

I hope to god she doesn't ask me for a reference as I do feel lied to

Which may be an over-reaction

But I don't think I have any choice

CarmenSanDiego Sun 05-Jul-09 23:53:15

That's really not fair of her. And in the current climate, I'm sure there are loads of people who'd be more than willing to train - especially with the guarantee of a better position. Is there a particular reason she doesn't, like cost or childcare, or is it just laziness?

I'd get rid and start again but be careful about legalities and contracts etc.

SnapD Sun 05-Jul-09 23:57:56

No cost

Time off in Lieu for the training

No children at home

Pay rise when she qualifies

I don't understand tbh it's not even a long course only about 7 or 8 days (spread over a few weeks)

trixymalixy Mon 06-Jul-09 00:05:47

Is she young and it's her first job or something?

SnapD Mon 06-Jul-09 00:08:59

In her 50's

I just give up

She says she loves the job & the people but I can't keep her on

I really need a qualified member of staff I already have assistants

SnapD Mon 06-Jul-09 00:13:29

2 interviews, a trial afternoon, numerous conversations (pre-interview, at both interviews & since) about the training

I really wanted to check I wasn't BU.........

I feel bad I can't get shut straight away, I feel I am stringing her along not saying anything for a fortnight, but if I say anything earlier she might leave without notice & that would leave me short staffed

I feel very selfish/mean, but I must keep a business head on

trixymalixy Mon 06-Jul-09 00:15:54

Hmmm, at that age she should know how things work so I think I would get shot of her.

Unless you can train up one of the other assistants, but it doesn't sound like she is worth bending over backwards for.

SnapD Mon 06-Jul-09 00:18:35

That's what I thought

The others don't want to train (family commitments etc plus they applied for the assistant job & enjoy it)

SnapD Mon 06-Jul-09 00:19:19


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