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What are an employers responsibilities?

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KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:09:06

I have taken on 3 assistants (I'm a childminder btw)

They do not work school holidays (they want to stay at home with their own children)

They work up to 6 (ish) hours a week

Do I have any responsibilities with regard to Holiday/Sick and Maternity Pay.

I pay half if they are sick - but nothing if their child is sick (I normally encourage their children to come with them - so they have no childcare costs) and the earn free childcare from me (1 hr per week worked)

Have I got myself into a sticky situation

(wow heavy for a saturday night)

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:11:48

Hi KMc see my post on other thread

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:13:33

Ta (am reading now)

toomanypushchairs Sat 05-Mar-05 21:21:04

sorry, being nosy(am Xena's sister)have been watching your other thread..if your assistants bring their children with them, do they count in your numbers?

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:25:23

Yes they occasionally they can't - but I'm always up front about it.

With one (A3) I have said that she can bring her 2 DT's 4 weeks out of 8 (as I have a child on a shift pattern) The other weeks the DT's are with her mum - who lives with her.

The other option would be for her to put them in Nursery on that day (they attend 3 days a week)
- which she may choose to do.

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:27:16

Do you happen to know what the allowance per sq foot that you need to have per child is....... if that made any sense at all?

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:34:55

OK so they are entitled to 4 weeks pay....but i can say when the go - so during the 13 weeks holiday.

eg if A1 gets £17.50 a week - therefore for the 13 weeks of the holidays I could pay her
17.50 X 4 = £70
£70/13 = £5.40 a week

Is that right??

Now I need to learn bank holidays -

Using A1 again each Bank Holiday she gets £17.50/5 (as she works 1 day a week)=£3.50 added to her pay every week there is a Bank Holiday

So CDay.Boxing Day. New Years Day, GF & EM, MayDay,Spring BH & A BH = 8 days ??

8x£3.50 = £28.00

So total extra for the year is £98

Can I divide that by the no of hrs she does and increase their hourly rate by that much

ie 3.5 x 39 = 136.5 Hrs

98/136.5 = 72 per hour

Shit thats a lot

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:35:52

No - but I know a book that does.....

I'll have a look

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:38:38

I don't think that you can show it as extra on her HR you have to show it as a seperate payment on her pay slip

blodwen Sat 05-Mar-05 21:39:09

I think it's 25 square feet per child under 5.

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:40:49


so for 9 I need about 25 m(average)

and for 12 an additional 7 (ish)

so 32, playroom is 28 + quiet room is 16(ish)

So I'm OK

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:42:38

But yes it does add a lot to her HR quite an increase

RTKangaMummy Sat 05-Mar-05 21:43:16

crumbs that is tiny

wouldn't get very far crawling or toddling in that

RTKangaMummy Sat 05-Mar-05 21:44:13

too slow again

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:45:34

RTKM - That's m not feet

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:46:28

Xena - you mentioned "her HR" a couple of times - what do you mean?

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:48:12

Thanks will measure my rooms in the morning Goodnight

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:48:39

sorry HR hourly rate

RTKangaMummy Sat 05-Mar-05 21:48:53

oh ok that is better then

so 1 child = 25m squared

is that right now????

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:50:24

Presumable that includes over 8's?

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:52:17

No my figures not Blodwens...

3 children at 25 sqft is 75 sqft so that a louge that is 12 ft x 6ft6 without any furniture

So an average lounge with a settee and a TV would 'just' do

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:52:40

Do you mean 2.5?

KatieMac Sat 05-Mar-05 21:53:56

OFSTED doesn't regulate over eights - remember- so "as long as the care of the overeights doesn't affect the under eights" they couldn't give a toss

RTKangaMummy Sat 05-Mar-05 21:56:30

I am mega confused now

It doesn't really matter as only have one mindee part time and plenty of room.

Xena Sat 05-Mar-05 21:57:59

Thats good. I have 3 DC's myself under 8, am currently reg for 2<5 (inc 1<1) and another 5-7. Have filled those and also mind an 9yo. Would like in Sept to take on an assistant and increase to 1 more baby and 1 more 5-7 and 1 more over 8. By employing a assistant.

Hopefully I will succesfully have another baby myself and DS will be 8 at christmas. The assistant could then be more incharge while I on mat leave. (not pg yet)

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