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I'm a TA and the teacher embarrassed on my first day in the classroom

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youdontknowmyname · 09/09/2017 14:00

Warning: it's a long story.

I'm a new TA at a secondary school (I have worked there before as a supply teacher). It was the first day of term for all year 7-13s, because it was the first day back the teacher provided some ice breaker activities for the kids to get to know their peers within their form class, the activity required a pen.

All TAs are required to carry stationery in case a kids need one. I saw a couple of kids in the corner who looked a little anxious so I assumed they did not have a pen, so I kindly offered pens to anyone who needed one. The teacher turned and looked at me, she looked at me as if I had defecated on her mother's head and she said "it's the first day back, they should have stationery on them at all times. If I were you I would put that back!". It was so embarrassing, the classroom went quiet and kids stared at me. Kids are like sharks, they can smell weakness, the water was filled with my blood.

I kept quiet for the remainder of the class, when the kids went off for their break I asked the teacher if I could speak to her privately. I was calm, collective and most of all professional. I told her I did not appreciate the way she spoke to me because it was embarrassing, and that I think it's ok to be lenient on the first day because it's important that the children have a pleasant first day experience. She denied all allegations and she had another go at me because it's school policy to carry stationery at all times.

I was coming down with a cold and I had a migraine, I suffered from severe depression in the past so I am a little more sensitive than others. I went into the staff locker room during break and I broke down in tears. My TA colleagues saw me cry and told me to head home as I was feeling sick and I didn't have the energy to cope emotionally. I spoke to my boss but I did not tell her about the pen incident, she sent me home and wished me a swift recovery.

I work through an agency, I got a call from my recruitment agent later on that day because my boss called her and told her about the "altercation" at work. She went absolutely mental and said that it was extremely unprofessional of me to speak to the teacher directly and that I should have kept my mouth shut and gone directly to her or my boss or both.

Am I in the wrong? what would you have done?

(The other TAs told me that this particular teacher is hard to work with because she's a rude control freak)

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PreparingToBeAMummy · 09/09/2017 14:05

Oh dear. I think you totally and completely overreacted and I would be really surprised, if you're an agency TA, if you will be invited back again. Im surprised if you have been a teacher before that this even bothered you tbh. Not a good start to the year. Perhaps her choice of wording/tone wasn't great but seriously...... And then to have gone home afterwards is even worse!

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PotteringAlong · 09/09/2017 14:09

No, it's not ok to be lenient on the first day so they have a "pleasant first day experience". You implement the rules so they know what they are and are not allowed to do.

You broke down in tears and then went home?!

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sprinklesofweirdness · 09/09/2017 14:12

You done nothing wrong, you tried to help students who granted didn't have their pens but they still would of got a pen, she called you out, she should of done it at the exact moment you told her you didn't appreciate that. She should of told you afterwards or even just said it in passing when you two only can hear. Going home with a migraine is understandable and some teachers take a couple of days off due to migraines. You have done nothing wrong. Also, your recruitment boss was out of order too, how else are you able to communicate with your colleagues and have a successful, smooth day?

I wish you a speedy recoveryFlowers

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vlooby · 09/09/2017 14:12

In my opinion as a teacher, by handing them pens, without drawing to teachers attention that a sanction might be necessary, you were potentially undermining her.

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youdontknowmyname · 09/09/2017 14:16

I went home because it was just an unfortunate coincident that I came down with the flu and a mild ear infection. I know there are school rules but I offered a pen because I didn't think it was that big of a deal.

I am on a long term contract from September to December.

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TotalUnknown · 09/09/2017 14:17

You overstepped your authority.

The teacher was establishing herself in the class and setting ground rules, explicit and implicit. She may well have been intending to use the activity to reinforce the rules that every child must be prepared with their own pens at all times. But you jumped in and prevented that.

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Appuskidu · 09/09/2017 14:17

Assuming that just because some children look a bit anxious that they need a pen so decide to start giving them out is a rather bizarre action though. This would be majorly irritating in the room whilst I was trying to start a lesson. Crying and then having to go home is equally bizarre. How long were you a classroom teacher for?

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TotalUnknown · 09/09/2017 14:18

* I know there are school rules but I offered a pen because I didn't think it was that big of a deal.*

Not your job.

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Appuskidu · 09/09/2017 14:19

You came down with the flu, an ear infection and a migraine all that morning?

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TotalUnknown · 09/09/2017 14:19

Bold fail. - emphasised the wrong part of the sentence.

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youdontknowmyname · 09/09/2017 14:21

Yes, I was going to call in sick but I dragged myself out of bed because I thought I could power through the day.

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Bluntness100 · 09/09/2017 14:22

I think uou over reacted I'm sorry but it may be to do with all the other things you're dealing with.

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AllTheWittyNamesAreGone · 09/09/2017 14:25

You knew the rules but didn't adhere because you don't like the rules.

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TroubleinDaFamily · 09/09/2017 14:26

You are further down the food chain now, and you should operate on her rules not yours.

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Bluntness100 · 09/09/2017 14:26

I'd also,say you should not be in school with,flu, I'm surprised they let you in the class.

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OrphanAccount · 09/09/2017 14:27

I've worked as a TA. You should have waited for her to say 'Those who don't have a pen today can borrow one from Mrs youdontkhow'. To just start handing them out to kids who looked vaguely concerned was a bit odd.

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Loyly · 09/09/2017 14:28

Sorry you were feeling rubbish.

You really did overreact.

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CauliflowerSqueeze · 09/09/2017 14:29

What a mess. You potentially undermined her and got so upset and ill that you then had to go home.

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ElizabethShaw · 09/09/2017 14:29

The teacher was sharp with you, but your job is to follow her lead/back her up. You overreacted and were unprofessional to tell her how to do her job.

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Fairenuff · 09/09/2017 14:30

You need to have thick skin to work in a school environment imo. Maybe it's just because you are ill but if you are usually this sensitive it might not be the best choice of job for you.

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happypoobum · 09/09/2017 14:31

OP, as a former teacher, you should know that you never smile until Christmas, and you do need to start as you mean to go on.

She does sound horrid in the way she spoke to you, she shouldn't have done this in front of the children.

It's done now so when you go back I would try to make it a fresh start. Maybe she was also having a shit day? Just be open, say you're sorry you didn't have a great start and want to start over and have a positive working relationship. Maybe you can try to spend ten minutes drawing up guidelines/boundaries with each other?

I hope it works for you and that you feel better soon Flowers

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Sukitakeitoff · 09/09/2017 14:31

Oh dear what an unfortunate first day Sad

I hope you can put all this behind you and make a new start next week.

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CancellyMcChequeface · 09/09/2017 14:32

I don't think you were in the wrong. You wanted to make the often stressful experience of the first day at school easier for the children. It was a kind, decent thing to do, but apparently frowned upon by the punitive, sanction-happy culture at some schools. Imagine being written up at work because you needed to borrow a pen from a colleague!

I also think that if a teacher needs to discuss something like this with a TA it should be in private after the lesson.

I'm reminded of why I stopped working in schools. I also have a history of depression and sometimes find little things much more upsetting than most people do - work colleagues can't be expected to know about/accommodate that, but it helps a lot if the organisational culture is a generally friendly and supportive one.

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Bombardier25966 · 09/09/2017 14:32

Kids are like sharks, they can smell weakness, the water was filled with my blood.

Are you in a fit mental state to be in work at the moment? Your handling of the situation from start to finish suggests not.

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topcat2014 · 09/09/2017 14:32

I am fascinated by this idea that you have to carry stationery yourself in case it should be needed - a bit like a first aid kit..

Not really your role to prevent children being told off for failing to comply with whatever petty rule the school chooses to have though.

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