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Pay rise?? No chance!!

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user1492023986 Wed 19-Apr-17 08:22:46

Am I being unreasonable to be asking for a pay rise when for the past 3 years I have been doing duties that far out way my job description? I have been organising a conference (been lead on) for the past 3 years and the only thing I have at the end of each event is a bunch of flowers to say thank you! My boss said he would take the job away from me and share it amongst the team when they are too busy as it is. What do I do!? I feel like I'm being treated like a mug!!

rookiemere Wed 19-Apr-17 08:59:44

Have you had any pay rise during that time ?

When you say organise the conference is this a once a year event and do you do other activities outside your job spec ?

PayRiseDilemma Wed 19-Apr-17 09:12:06

Why did he say he would take it away?

daisychain01 Wed 19-Apr-17 09:43:40

Have you been confrontational with your boss during the conference organisation work (i.e. Asking for your pay increase because of the work)?

Maybe he has taken a negative view about it and said he'd give the work to other people if it's a problem to you.

flowery Wed 19-Apr-17 09:44:55

You are not unreasonable to be asking for a payrise, but that doesn't mean your employer has to give you one.

How does your salary compare to similar roles in the marketplace, or to roles with similar levels of responsibility within your employer?

Your boss said he would take the job away if what ?

user1492023986 Wed 19-Apr-17 10:07:31

I have had only cost of living increase and my dais said he would take the lead on the conference away from me if I was finding it too much along with my other duties. The conference isn't in my job description and I want
It to be hoping it will push a pay rise. It's a 2 day conference once a year

FinallyHere Wed 19-Apr-17 10:54:37

The most reliable way to get a pay rise is to find a job with another organisation which pays more.

And be prepared to take it. Win win for you, not so good for your boss.

flowery Wed 19-Apr-17 10:59:46

A 2 day event once a year? I think in circumstances where your boss is making it optional for you and it's only a short annual event rather than a regular thing, you'll be struggling to use that to justify another pay rise. Job descriptions aren't supposed to be complete lists of everything you ever do anyway, and having it on the job description as opposed to just something you normally do wouldn't make you more eligible for a pay rise.

If you want a pay rise the best thing to do is demonstrate that roles similar to yours are paid more in your sector, or that you have a higher level of responsibility than you previously had, things like that.

unfortunateevents Wed 19-Apr-17 11:14:18

Is it only on the basis of organising this one-off event that you think you are entitled to a pay rise? Unless you are doing a significant amount of other work outside of your job description, I don't see that this is a good basis for arguing that you are entitled to an increase. As Flowery said, this event will most likely come under the heading of "other duties" or whatever catch-all phrase is probably included in your job description. Regardless of the size of the conference, your boss will see it as a single task so isn't going to be amenable to increasing your salary for that one thing.

It's also not true you haven't had a pay rise if you have had cost of living increases - many employees haven't had even that. Have other people in your organisation had larger salary increases?

daisychain01 Wed 19-Apr-17 11:21:43

The best you can hope for when given this type of ad hoc role is to do a tremendous job and show yourself what you're capable of. If you find you are developing new skills and competencies highlight them on your CV and at your Annual performance appraisal.

Tbh you are more likely to be appreciated in a different role so use it as a springboard.

Goldfishjane Wed 19-Apr-17 11:27:57

Let him distribute the work among others

I think organising a conference isn't much basis for a rise - and yes I know how much work it is. So if the option is there to share the work, do that. If it really emerges they are too busy then you are in a better position to get a bit of extra pay for it.

Trollspoopglitter Wed 19-Apr-17 11:33:32

I've organised conferences (usually most are 2 days) before and it took months of work - designing and printing large volumes of give away brochures, custom "booths", coordinating photo shoots for the images in the "booths" - and depending how strict the conference organisers are, sometimes you're limited to specifically authorised suppliers, so they gave a huge backlog and require designs to be done way in advance. A two day conference can be months of work, depending what she's actually being required to do. And an annual conference is hardly a one-off event.

PuntCuffin Wed 19-Apr-17 12:10:06

Is it an external customer facing conference or an internal company conference? Is it more like trolls describes, with brochures, booths etc, or just booking meeting and hotel rooms for other employees to attend? There are so many definitions to different people of a 'conference' that I would struggle to say a pay rise above inflation was justified just because you organise one a year.

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