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Promotion but lied to, where do you stand?

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m0therofdragons · 27/10/2016 20:13

Dh was asked to apply for and internal promotion in July and told interview would be August. It was delayed as permission hadn't been given by head office and after a lot of messing around, arranging interview and cancelling he finally was interviewed and offered the role. He was told what the pay rise would be and given 24 hrs to accept. Pay for the role doesn't match at all and they're taking the p but it's a job dh wants to do and turning it down would just mean a less senior member of staff would get the job and become dh's boss so he accepted. He was emailed to confirm two directors had signed off the salary so all was fine. Dh has been doing the job since 23th sept and pay day is 26th of the month. He got his payslip and the additional pay isn't there.

He asked manager and she said she'd find out and then didn't even bother to talk to him, just emailed saying more people needed to sign it off but they would and it'll be back dated. She cannot confirm when.

I'm fuming.
1, they didn't communicate this with him as if they hoped he wouldn't notice
2, when they back date he'll have more deducted as it'll be a higher amount so likely to mess up tax and Student loan etc
3, they've made him start a job without actually knowing whether they'll pay him - senior team may not sign it off

I cannot understand how a large company can get away with this kind of shit. Dh is putting in loads of unpaid overtime as he wants to get everything in place and do the new job well and they treat him like this.

Dh's response: "I have a meeting scheduled next week with my manager so I'll raise it then."

I think he needs to be less of a doormat. (I do all our finances so hate not knowing what's going on).

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Chewbecca · 27/10/2016 20:18

I suggest you leave it with him to follow up.

It takes ages in my (large company) workplace to get all the admin through. A large company is still just a collection of people like you and
I. He just needs to gently chase it. It will be backdated. Presumably you are not desperate for the extra £ this month - you have the same as previous months? Think of the back pay as a Christmas bonus.

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m0therofdragons · 27/10/2016 20:25

You wouldn't employ an external candidate and not pay for work done so I don't see why this is different. Clearly dh needs to sort but he's such a bloody push over because he's so nice. Really could have done with it this month as it's been an expensive one re car services etc. If there's a problem a company should inform you rather than hope you don't notice. I've worked in various roles and never had to deal with such poor management so I'm genuinely shocked employers get away with this. It's the age of computers not pigeon mail.

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FinderofNeedles · 28/10/2016 23:58

Dh has been doing the job since 23th sept and pay day is 26th of the month.

We get our salaries in the bank on the 'second last' banking day of the month. Any changes have to be notified to payroll by the 5th of the same month. Payroll spend the next 10 days checking things out, before inputting all the details to the system, then I think it has to be transmitted to the bank before the bank can pay us. There are over 3000 employees. Now, I'm no expert, so despite our size, ours may be the most antiquated system in the western hemisphere, but I think you may be a little unrealistic in your expectations of how quickly your DH's would receive his new pay rate.

Your DH surely gets paid in arrears anyway, so he'd only be due - at most- a week at the higher rate?

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FadedRed · 29/10/2016 00:06

Finder it's been a month, not a week.

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FinderofNeedles · 29/10/2016 19:37

Sorry, missed that! In which case, I would expect that he would have to sign a new contract before getting the higher rate of pay. For HR to draw up a new contract, the senior management will have to sign off his new pay. I see it all now. He needs to ask HR on Monday what's happening.

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WeAllHaveWings · 30/10/2016 10:41

Large companies have so much red tape these things take a while to go through all the approvals/compliance and changes required so you need to lower your expectations or you could be fuming for another 2 months!

There is likely to be nothing your dh can do to expedite the process and working in a large company he will know this so there is no value in unnecessarily making him feel like a doormat because you don't understand the complexities of large companies admin.

Starting on the 23rd September I would never have expected it to reach the payroll cutover for October, even November is pushing it if there are still approvals outstanding.

I'm fuming.
1, they didn't communicate this with him as if they hoped he wouldn't notice - highly unlikely, you do sound very paranoid
2, when they back date he'll have more deducted as it'll be a higher amount so likely to mess up tax and Student loan etc - your personal home finances are not their problem
3, they've made him start a job without actually knowing whether they'll pay him - senior team may not sign it off - this happens all the time in large companies, very rare for the final senior team member to not signoff when the employee has already been placed

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