Bank hols for part-timers

[maisiejones]

I apologise as this has been done to death on here but I'm confused. I currently work full-time and get 25 days holiday plus 8 B/H. I'm reducing to four days a week, Tuesday to Friday. I know my A/L will drop to 20 days. I've often read on here that B/Hs are pro-rata for P/T which should give me 6.4 days but my company doesn't do this. They do this: 5.6 x 4 (no. of days pr/wk) so 22.4, minus no. of B/H that fall on your normal working days, so for me Good Friday plus Christmas and Boxing Days if they fall Tues to Fri giving a possible total of 3. Then they deduct this from 22.4 making 19.4. I think I'm being short changed but I stand to be corrected by someone who can actually make sense of this.

[jobrum]

Where I work in the civil service does the same. As I work normal days mon and fri and short days tues-thurs I end up owing hours due to when the bank holidays fall. Onl y just started this patern and dont really understand it. Think I'd care less if I was given hours back because of my working patern like some colleahes though!

[biscuitkumquat]

You're entitled to 26.4 days per year (including Bank Holidays).

They are legally obliged to not treat you differently because you are Part-Time.

Are you a member of a Union?

[dementedpixie]

If they are adding on bank holidays for full time staff then you should get a prorated amount of bank holidays for being part time although full time holidays would normally be 28 days for those working a 5 day week. They are only adding 5 extra days on top of what you are legally entitled to (rather than 8)

[maisiejones]

Thank you Biscuit. That's the figure I arrived at too. I haven't challenged it yet but I certainly will!

[dementedpixie]

They can take bank holidays out of your holiday entitlement but not if they aren't giving you the correct amount of holidays in the first place

[Ginmakesitallok]

If you don't have to take your phs out of your holiday entitlement then they might be right? What al do full timers get?

[dementedpixie]

Where do they get 25 from in the first place as 28 is the minimum for full time staff?

[Ginmakesitallok]

Sorry- just re read your post. You should be getting 25.6 days off.

[Ginmakesitallok]

Demented- 25 al + 8bh gives 32 days off

[dementedpixie]

I know, so she is only benefitting from 5 days bank holiday, not 8 as the starting holiday figure is not correct

[maisiejones]

25 days plus 8 B/H is my current entitlement.

[maisiejones]

So 33 days in total for working 5 days per week.

[Ginmakesitallok]

They are wrong. You should be getting a total of 25.6 days off. (22.6 of which you can choose, 3 of which are bhs falling on working days)

[Ginmakesitallok]

Sorry 26.4 days in total, 23.4 which you can choose.

[dementedpixie]

So 4/5ths of that is 26.4 . I would query it as you shouldn't be put at a disadvantage due to working part time

[BaronessEllaSaturday]

the problem is in the calculation it should be 6.6 x 4 not 5.6. It might need spelling out to hr where they are making the error because it looks like someone has taken the calculation straight from the gov website without allowing for your generous holiday entitlement

[maisiejones]

Thank you all. Glad it's not me. 😀

[PourquoiPas]

Where I work it would be (25+8)/5 X 4 = 26.4 days holiday. However, you then need to take any bank holidays out of your holiday so 23.4 days left.

[dementedpixie]

The 5.6 x 4 is correct but they then need to prorate the bank holidays they give to full time staff. As they only really give 5 bh to them (as 28 days is minimum legal entitlement) then you should get 4/5ths of them which is 4 days. 22.4 + 4 = 26.4 too

[BaronessEllaSaturday]

the 5.6 doesn't work in this instance because the company offer more than the statutory minimum so consequently the ratio needs increasing to take into account the total number of days being 33.

[KP86]

It's not (leave days X 4), it should be (leave days X 0.8) for 4 days per week.

PP who said 26.4 are correct.

But then if you don't work on BH then that needs to come out of your leave balance.

Any days that you've accrued while working full time should be available at your full time rate (ie. if you worked full time from 1 Jan - 30 Jun and your holiday year goes from Jan - Dec, then you should get full time leave balance for the first six months of this year.